Hi folks,

I don't use binary distributions, either. It makes sense for runtime
projects such as Apache Karaf, Kafka, Artemis, etc. to provide binary
distributions, but it doesn't for library frameworks like Camel Core, Camel
Quarkus, and CKC.

For Camel-K, however, it has a CLI `kamel` so IMO it still makes sense to
keep binary distributions for it.

Thanks,
Tadayoshi

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:58 PM Ajmera, Hemang C <hemang.ajm...@cgi.com>
wrote:

> I am relying on maven for binaries and git for sourcecode. IMHO binary
> distribution may not be needed.
> Github has release feature, where we can have binaries can be downloaded
> from there. Many users might be used to that way of downloading binary, so
> if needed, that can be alternate place for download if anyone needs it.
> However CI/CD pipeline might need updates for github release to work.
>
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Hemang Ajmera
>
>
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> Hi Cameleers,
> we're discussing binary distribution on two issues[1][2]. The binary
> distribution is the tar.gz/ZIP file linked from the Camel website. By ASF
> policy we only ship source code, and the binary distribution is optional.
>
> Back in the dark days, before using build tools that knew about dependency
> management (Maven, Gradle...) folk used to use the binary distribution.
>
> I've found some statistics on downloads/per day, for us[3]/eu[4] and
> created these charts:
>
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://s.apache.org/camel-dl-us__;!!AaIhyw!8ibMqXkFVhQZbXiUiDEZIMhodvHt6ZT0-9hO37pz6vxmkpWyl1rF-cNDiSwKzT18$
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://s.apache.org/camel-dl-eu__;!!AaIhyw!8ibMqXkFVhQZbXiUiDEZIMhodvHt6ZT0-9hO37pz6vxmkpWyl1rF-cNDic4MBCm6$
>
> The data is over 2 and 1/4 years, we've had 19.7+-8.8 via US, and
> 20.24+-8.43 in via EU per day. So not that much IMHO.
>
> I'm wondering if anyone is still relying on these, and if so what would a
> binary distribution look like for sub projects? Should we do the same as we
> do for the Camel core?
>
> Please reply on this thread or chime in on those issues for sub-project
> specific concerns.
>
> Thanks :)
>
> zoran
>
> [1]
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/apache/camel-quarkus/issues/2045__;!!AaIhyw!8ibMqXkFVhQZbXiUiDEZIMhodvHt6ZT0-9hO37pz6vxmkpWyl1rF-cNDiZ80_jXD$
> [2]
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/apache/camel-kafka-connector/issues/754__;!!AaIhyw!8ibMqXkFVhQZbXiUiDEZIMhodvHt6ZT0-9hO37pz6vxmkpWyl1rF-cNDiVlO1Pqs$
> [3]
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www-us.apache.org/dyn/stats/camel.log__;!!AaIhyw!8ibMqXkFVhQZbXiUiDEZIMhodvHt6ZT0-9hO37pz6vxmkpWyl1rF-cNDiStt2eyy$
> [4]
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www-eu.apache.org/dyn/stats/camel.log__;!!AaIhyw!8ibMqXkFVhQZbXiUiDEZIMhodvHt6ZT0-9hO37pz6vxmkpWyl1rF-cNDicRsFgPE$
> --
> Zoran Regvart
>


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Tadayoshi Sato

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