Thanks for the update.

Let me try to reproduce it with a simple route.

Regards
JB

On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 10:20 AM Zinner, Frank Uwe Alfred
<frank.uwe.alfred.zin...@externe.dfs.de> wrote:
>
> Hi JB,
>
> this doesn't work either.
>
> This are the relevant log parts from karaf.log and activemq.log for further 
> investigation:
>
> #### KARAF LOG
>
> 2022-02-17T17:06:55,593 | INFO  | CM Configuration Updater (Update: 
> pid=org.ops4j.pax.logging) | EventAdminConfigurationNotifier  | 6 - 
> org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-api - 1.11.13 | Sending Event Admin 
> notification (configuration successful) to org/ops4j/pax/logging/Configuration
> 2022-02-17T17:08:52,202 | INFO  | pipe-bundle:restart 337 | BlueprintExtender 
>                | 22 - org.apache.aries.blueprint.core - 1.10.3 | Destroying 
> container for blueprint bundle 
> de.dfs.services.xxx.xxx.xxx.CatoAftnFilterRouter/3.0.0.SNAPSHOT
> 2022-02-17T17:08:52,205 | INFO  | pipe-bundle:restart 337 | 
> AbstractCamelContext             | 78 - org.apache.camel.camel-base-engine - 
> 3.11.5 | Apache Camel 3.11.5 (CATO-FILTER-Context) shutting down (timeout:5s)
> 2022-02-17T17:08:53,180 | INFO  | pipe-bundle:restart 337 | 
> AbstractCamelContext             | 78 - org.apache.camel.camel-base-engine - 
> 3.11.5 | Routes shutdown summary (total:1 stopped:1)
> 2022-02-17T17:08:53,180 | INFO  | pipe-bundle:restart 337 | 
> AbstractCamelContext             | 78 - org.apache.camel.camel-base-engine - 
> 3.11.5 |     Stopped CATO-FILTER-Router 
> (opsActivemq://topic:aftn.inbound.records)
> 2022-02-17T17:08:53,196 | INFO  | pipe-bundle:restart 337 | 
> AbstractCamelContext             | 78 - org.apache.camel.camel-base-engine - 
> 3.11.5 | Apache Camel 3.11.5 (CATO-FILTER-Context) shutdown in 991ms 
> (uptime:3m4s)
> 2022-02-17T17:08:53,201 | INFO  | pipe-bundle:restart 337 | CommandExtension  
>                | 188 - org.apache.karaf.shell.core - 4.2.15 | Unregistering 
> commands for bundle 
> de.dfs.services.xxx.xxx.xxx.CatoAftnFilterRouter/3.0.0.SNAPSHOT
> 2022-02-17T17:08:53,218 | INFO  | pipe-bundle:restart 337 | 
> AbstractCamelContextFactoryBean  | 91 - org.apache.camel.camel-core-xml - 
> 3.11.5 | Using custom ShutdownStrategy: 
> org.apache.camel.impl.engine.DefaultShutdownStrategy@abb6303
> 2022-02-17T17:08:53,222 | INFO  | pipe-bundle:restart 337 | 
> BlueprintCamelStateService       | 139 - 
> org.apache.camel.karaf.camel-blueprint - 3.11.5 | Karaf BundleStateService 
> not accessible. Bundle state won't reflect Camel context state
> 2022-02-17T17:08:53,223 | INFO  | pipe-bundle:restart 337 | 
> BlueprintContainerImpl           | 22 - org.apache.aries.blueprint.core - 
> 1.10.3 | Blueprint bundle 
> de.dfs.services.xxx.xxx.xxx.CatoAftnFilterRouter/3.0.0.SNAPSHOT has been 
> started
> 2022-02-17T17:08:53,223 | INFO  | Blueprint Event Dispatcher: 1 | 
> BlueprintCamelContext            | 139 - 
> org.apache.camel.karaf.camel-blueprint - 3.11.5 | Attempting to start 
> CamelContext: CATO-FILTER-Context
> 2022-02-17T17:08:53,226 | INFO  | Blueprint Event Dispatcher: 1 | 
> JmxManagementStrategy            | 111 - org.apache.camel.camel-management - 
> 3.11.5 | JMX is enabled2022-02-17T17:08:53,257 | WARN  | Blueprint Event 
> Dispatcher: 1 | CoreTypeConverterRegistry        | 77 - 
> org.apache.camel.camel-base - 3.11.5 | Overriding type converter from: 
> StaticMethodTypeConverter: public static 
> org.apache.activemq.command.ActiveMQDestination 
> org.apache.activemq.camel.converter.ActiveMQConverter.toDestination(java.lang.String)
>  to: org.apache.camel.support.SimpleTypeConverter@6b36dbea
> 2022-02-17T17:08:53,257 | WARN  | Blueprint Event Dispatcher: 1 | 
> CoreTypeConverterRegistry        | 77 - org.apache.camel.camel-base - 3.11.5 
> | Overriding type converter from: InstanceMethodTypeConverter: public 
> org.apache.activemq.command.ActiveMQMessage 
> org.apache.activemq.camel.converter.ActiveMQMessageConverter.toMessage(org.apache.camel.Exchange)
>  throws javax.jms.JMSException to: 
> org.apache.camel.support.SimpleTypeConverter@1bb26af7
> 2022-02-17T17:08:53,257 | WARN  | Blueprint Event Dispatcher: 1 | 
> CoreTypeConverterRegistry        | 77 - org.apache.camel.camel-base - 3.11.5 
> | Overriding type converter from: InstanceMethodTypeConverter: public 
> org.apache.camel.Processor 
> org.apache.activemq.camel.converter.ActiveMQMessageConverter.toProcessor(javax.jms.MessageListener)
>  to: org.apache.camel.support.SimpleTypeConverter@44944087
> 2022-02-17T17:08:53,270 | INFO  | Blueprint Event Dispatcher: 1 | 
> AbstractCamelContext             | 78 - org.apache.camel.camel-base-engine - 
> 3.11.5 | Routes startup summary (total:1 started:1)
> 2022-02-17T17:08:53,270 | INFO  | Blueprint Event Dispatcher: 1 | 
> AbstractCamelContext             | 78 - org.apache.camel.camel-base-engine - 
> 3.11.5 |     Started CATO-FILTER-Router 
> (opsActivemq://topic:aftn.inbound.records)
> 2022-02-17T17:08:53,270 | INFO  | Blueprint Event Dispatcher: 1 | 
> AbstractCamelContext             | 78 - org.apache.camel.camel-base-engine - 
> 3.11.5 | Apache Camel 3.11.5 (CATO-FILTER-Context) started in 48ms (build:1ms 
> init:9ms start:38ms)
> 2022-02-17T17:08:53,274 | INFO  | pipe-bundle:restart 337 | CommandExtension  
>                | 188 - org.apache.karaf.shell.core - 4.2.15 | Registering 
> commands for bundle 
> de.dfs.services.xxx.xxx.xxx.CatoAftnFilterRouter/3.0.0.SNAPSHOT
> 2022-02-17T17:09:28,590 | INFO  | pipe-logout      | LogoutAction             
>         | 186 - org.apache.karaf.shell.commands - 4.2.15 | Disconnecting from 
> current session...
> 2022-02-17T17:09:32,829 | INFO  | Karaf Shutdown Socket Thread | 
> ShutdownSocketThread             | 6 - org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-api 
> - 1.11.13 | Karaf shutdown socket: received shutdown command. Stopping 
> framework...
>
>
> #### ActiveMQ / CAMEL Log
>
> 2022-02-17 17:08:52,149 [e[dise] Task-11] - DEBUG Queue                       
>    -                                 aftn.outbound        - 
> queue://aftn.outbound, subscriptions=0, memory=5%, size=341, pending=0 
> toPageIn: 11, force:false, Inflight: 0, pagedInMessages.size 330, 
> pagedInPendingDispatch.size 330, enqueueCount: 341, dequeueCount: 100, 
> memUsage:598016, maxPageSize:200
> 2022-02-17 17:08:52,171 [ vm://dise#17-1] - DEBUG Queue                       
>    -            vm://dise                                 - dise Message 
> ID:clienthost-40191-1645113948293-4:5:1:1:86 sent to queue://aftn.outbound
> 2022-02-17 17:08:52,171 [e[dise] Task-11] - DEBUG Queue                       
>    -                                 aftn.outbound        - 
> queue://aftn.outbound, subscriptions=0, memory=5%, size=342, pending=0 
> toPageIn: 12, force:false, Inflight: 0, pagedInMessages.size 330, 
> pagedInPendingDispatch.size 330, enqueueCount: 342, dequeueCount: 100, 
> memUsage:599596, maxPageSize:200
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,169 [nbound.records]] - DEBUG ActiveMQMessageConsumer     
>    -                                                      - remove: 
> ID:clienthost-40191-1645113948293-8:1:1:1, lastDeliveredSequenceId: 1154285264
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,190 [dle:restart 337] - DEBUG ThreadPoolUtils             
>    -                                                      - Shutdown of 
> ExecutorService: java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor@66fc82ca[Terminated, 
> pool size = 0, active threads = 0, queued tasks = 0, completed tasks = 342] 
> is shutdown: true and terminated: false took: 0.000 seconds.
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,191 [dle:restart 337] - DEBUG ThreadPoolUtils             
>    -                                                      - Shutdown of 
> ExecutorService: java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor@4dee60a1[Terminated, 
> pool size = 0, active threads = 0, queued tasks = 0, completed tasks = 0] is 
> shutdown: true and terminated: true took: 0.000 seconds.
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,191 [0.7:61616@54932] - DEBUG ThreadPoolUtils             
>    -                                                      - Shutdown of 
> ExecutorService: java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor@889e3b[Terminated, 
> pool size = 0, active threads = 0, queued tasks = 0, completed tasks = 0] is 
> shutdown: true and terminated: true took: 0.000 seconds.
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,191 [dle:restart 337] - DEBUG FailoverTransport           
>    -                                                      - Stopped 
> tcp://hostname:61616
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,191 [dle:restart 337] - DEBUG ThreadPoolUtils             
>    -                                                      - Forcing shutdown 
> of ExecutorService: java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor@2864d088[Running, 
> pool size = 0, active threads = 0, queued tasks = 0, completed tasks = 2]
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,192 [dle:restart 337] - DEBUG TcpTransport                
>    -                                                      - Stopping 
> transport tcp://hostname/xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:61616@54932
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,192 [dle:restart 337] - DEBUG TaskRunnerFactory           
>    -                                                      - Initialized 
> TaskRunnerFactory[ActiveMQ Task] using ExecutorService: 
> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor@780bfee[Running, pool size = 0, 
> active threads = 0, queued tasks = 0, completed tasks = 0]
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,193 [ActiveMQ Task-1] - DEBUG TcpTransport                
>    -                                                      - Closed socket 
> Socket[addr=hostname/xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx,port=61616,localport=54932]
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,193 [dle:restart 337] - DEBUG ThreadPoolUtils             
>    -                                                      - Forcing shutdown 
> of ExecutorService: java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor@780bfee[Running, 
> pool size = 1, active threads = 0, queued tasks = 0, completed tasks = 1]
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,266 [e[dise] Task-11] - DEBUG TaskRunnerFactory           
>    -                                                      - Initialized 
> TaskRunnerFactory[ActiveMQ VMTransport: vm://dise#25] using ExecutorService: 
> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor@5ace9ef1[Running, pool size = 0, 
> active threads = 0, queued tasks = 0, completed tasks = 0]
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,266 [t Dispatcher: 1] - DEBUG TaskRunnerFactory           
>    -                                                      - Initialized 
> TaskRunnerFactory[ActiveMQ VMTransport: vm://dise#24] using ExecutorService: 
> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor@c271484[Running, pool size = 0, 
> active threads = 0, queued tasks = 0, completed tasks = 0]
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,268 [ vm://dise#25-1] - DEBUG TransportConnection         
>    -            vm://dise                                 - Setting up new 
> connection id: ID:clienthost-40191-1645113948293-16:1, address: vm://dise#24, 
> info: ConnectionInfo {commandId = 1, responseRequired = true, connectionId = 
> ID:clienthost-40191-1645113948293-16:1, clientId = 
> ID:clienthost-40191-1645113948293-15:1, clientIp = null, userName = 
> yyyyyyyyy, password = *****, brokerPath = null, brokerMasterConnector = 
> false, manageable = true, clientMaster = true, faultTolerant = false, 
> failoverReconnect = false}
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,268 [ vm://dise#25-1] - DEBUG TransportConnector          
>    -            vm://dise                                 - Publishing: 
> vm://dise for broker transport URI: vm://dise
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,268 [ vm://dise#25-1] - DEBUG TransportConnector          
>    -            vm://dise                                 - Publishing: 
> vm://dise for broker transport URI: vm://dise
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,268 [ vm://dise#25-1] - DEBUG AbstractRegion              
>    -            vm://dise                                 - dise adding 
> consumer: ID:clienthost-40191-1645113948293-16:1:-1:1 for destination: 
> ActiveMQ.Advisory.TempQueue,ActiveMQ.Advisory.TempTopic
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,268 [ vm://dise#25-1] - DEBUG PolicyEntry                 
>    -            vm://dise                                 - Setting the 
> maximumPendingMessages size to: 1000 for consumer: 
> ID:clienthost-40191-1645113948293-16:1:-1:1
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,270 [ vm://dise#25-1] - DEBUG AbstractRegion              
>    -            vm://dise                                 - dise adding 
> consumer: ID:clienthost-40191-1645113948293-16:1:1:1 for destination: 
> topic://aftn.inbound.records
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,270 [ vm://dise#25-1] - DEBUG PolicyEntry                 
>    -            vm://dise                                 - Setting the 
> maximumPendingMessages size to: 1000 for consumer: 
> ID:clienthost-40191-1645113948293-16:1:1:1
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,271 [ vm://dise#25-1] - DEBUG TransportConnector          
>    -            vm://dise                                 - Publishing: 
> vm://dise for broker transport URI: vm://dise
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,271 [ vm://dise#25-1] - DEBUG TransportConnector          
>    -            vm://dise                                 - Publishing: 
> vm://dise for broker transport URI: vm://dise
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,271 [ vm://dise#25-1] - DEBUG AbstractRegion              
>    -            vm://dise                                 - dise adding 
> destination: topic://ActiveMQ.Advisory.Consumer.Topic.aftn.inbound.records
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,272 [nbound.records]] - DEBUG TaskRunnerFactory           
>    -                                                      - Initialized 
> TaskRunnerFactory[ActiveMQ Session Task] using ExecutorService: 
> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor@4a07d63e[Running, pool size = 0, 
> active threads = 0, queued tasks = 0, completed tasks = 0]
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,595 [eckpoint Worker] - DEBUG MessageDatabase             
>    - dise                                                 - Checkpoint 
> started.
> 2022-02-17 17:08:53,601 [eckpoint Worker] - DEBUG MessageDatabase             
>    - dise                                                 - Checkpoint done.
> 2022-02-17 17:08:58,607 [eckpoint Worker] - DEBUG MessageDatabase             
>    - dise                                                 - Checkpoint 
> started.
> 2022-02-17 17:08:58,607 [eckpoint Worker] - DEBUG MessageDatabase             
>    - dise                                                 - Checkpoint done.
> 2022-02-17 17:09:03,614 [eckpoint Worker] - DEBUG MessageDatabase             
>    - dise                                                 - Checkpoint 
> started.
> 2022-02-17 17:09:03,614 [eckpoint Worker] - DEBUG MessageDatabase             
>    - dise                                                 - Checkpoint done.
> 2022-02-17 17:09:08,622 [eckpoint Worker] - DEBUG MessageDatabase             
>    - dise                                                 - Checkpoint 
> started.
>
> Regards
> Frank
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2022 17:53
> An: users@camel.apache.org
> Betreff: EXT:Re: Lost connection to ActiveMQ for Camel routes after 
> configuration changes
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> does restarting the blueprint container help (not the bundle, I mean 
> restarting the route using camel:* commands for instance) ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 3:37 PM Zinner, Frank Uwe Alfred 
> <frank.uwe.alfred.zin...@externe.dfs.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > I have a running Kafka 4.2.15 with Camel 3.11.5 and ActiveMQ 5.16.2 with a 
> > Camel route to an external ActiveMQ broker.
> > When I start my local Karaf, the Camel routes connect both ActiveMQ servers 
> > local and external and all works as expected.
> > Then when I change the local configuration, Karaf restarts the route but 
> > the connection is lost.
> > I can see on the external broker side, that the client connection is not 
> > present after configuration changed or if I restart the bundle.
> >
> > The configuration properties got promoted to the camel component e.g. when 
> > I change one of the values but I wasn't able to track/debug this down 
> > further why the connection is lost.
> > Only a restart of the hole Karaf, brings the connection up again.
> >
> > Any ideas what I can do here or has someone experienced the same as me?
> >
> > The external ActiveMQ broker has version 5.13.3 the local broker has 
> > version 5.16.2.
> >
> > I connect to an external topic and I use a RouteBuilder to create this 
> > route:
> >
> > from(source).id("Router").description("Filter messages")
> >                 .choice()
> >                     .when(predicate) // predicate is a Camel Predicate
> >                         .to(destination) // this is a topic on a local 
> > ActiveMQ broker
> >                     .otherwise()
> >                         .to(destinationFiltered); // also a topic on a
> > local ActiveMQ broker
> >
> > BrokerURL is tcp://hostname:61616 where hostname is the external 5.13.3 
> > ActiveMQ broker.
> >
> > Nothing special there. The route connects to the remote broker topic, 
> > fetches the incoming messages, filters them and sends them to the local 
> > broker.
> > Again, when I change a parameter in the configuration.cfg file on my local 
> > running Karaf or even restart the bundle this causes camel to lose the 
> > connection.
> >
> >
> > Frank Uwe Alfred Zinner (extern)
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
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