Hello again.
I'd personally like to contribute to bring Beanio back to Camel, but in
the context of our customer's works I'm afraid we can't afford it : our
current job is essentially to create and maintain softwares and
information systems of these business entities, using middlewares and
tools, and not providing them. We're planing a migration from our old
Red-Hat Fuse to more recent, lighter Karaf and Camel stack, and the road
seems to be... quite long...
I've had a look at the camel-beanio's code, and it seems that it should
not be so difficult to fork it or perhaps reuse a part of it,
considering only the beanio features, without any component interface
(avoiding future work to follow Camel versions and changes), with
processors for example. This would imply some changes to our routes, but
would limit impacts on the many files mappings and their processing.
But this is probably not the preferred strategy : a data format in the
Camel's scope is still clearly the best choice, offering a fully
integrated component for all...
I've noticed, if I'm not wrong, that the old camel-beanio library itself
has no external dependency (out of Camel's world) that could be a
concern about security CVEs. This is probably a good news, whatever
solution.
So I also vote to get beanio back :) !
Regards.
Ephemeris Lappis
Le 27/12/2022 à 22:16, Andrea Cosentino a écrit :
If you have time and there is a willing to maintain the library, this is
good
As of today, the only updated release is milestone from 18 months ago and
no further work.
There should be a community of developers working on the beanio fork to
consider it again for being in Camel.
Il mar 27 dic 2022, 21:39 kilidarria <kilidar...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
I would vote to bring this back and maintaining it. We also have numerous
flat files with complex record structures defined. We are currently RH fuse
I'm not sure what their upgrade plans are for Camel 3 so I have some
time. MarciSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Andrea Cosentino <
anco...@gmail.com> Date: 12/27/22 3:03 AM (GMT-08:00) To:
users@camel.apache.org Subject: Re: Camel 3.X / DataFormat BeanIO The
problem with this kind of dead libraries is related to the fact thatthey
rapidly become affected by multiple CVEs.So being mature and non
maintained, it's a problem.Since nobody updates or release new versions,
going ahead we're going toinclude weak libraries if we maintain them in
codebase.So, I don't think there is any hope to see the component back in
the camelcodebase.Il giorno mar 27 dic 2022 alle ore 12:00 Ephemeris Lappis
<ephemeris.lap...@gmail.com> ha scritto:> Hello.>> It seems very strange
to me to remove a component when no easy> alternative exists. Almost half
of our about 100 projects use fixed> length files that are still used by
many companies legacy systems, and> rely on beanio.>> In my opinion, a
stable component that has no recent change is not> "dead", just "mature".>>
Can we hope it gets back to a future Camel release ?>> Regards.>> Le mar.
27 déc. 2022 à 11:47, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> a écrit> :> >>
Hi> >> > BeanIO is a dead/not-active project and removed in 3.x, as some
other> > components - its documented in the upgrade guide to 3.17.x> >> >>
On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 11:38 AM Ephemeris Lappis <> >
ephemeris.lap...@gmail.com> wrote:> >> > > Hello.> > >> > > I'm very
surprised to see that the data format BEANIO has been removed> > > in the
last Camel versions. Isn't any replacement component ?> > >> > > We used
BeanIO in many exchanges that handle enterprise legacy systems> > > fixed
length formatted files (big retail companies still use it for> > > many
purposes). I know alternative components for many file formats> > > (xml,
csv, etc.), but for fixed length, BeanIO is really the only one> > > that
can handle complex structured files...> > >> > > What can we do :( ???> >
Thanks for any idea that can save our migration plans.> > >> > >
Regards.> > >> >> >> > --> > Claus Ibsen> > -----------------> >
@davsclaus> > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2>
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