On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 9:06 PM Steve973 <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Claus.  Thanks for the recommendation.  Originally, I was going to use
> the RecipientList class and create an instance.  I thought that I would see
> how core was creating the processor, which led me to my interest in the
> reifier class.  When I looked at it, I saw the value in how it set up the
> executors/thread pools, and the aggregation strategy.  If I cannot (or do
> not) use the reifier, then I will have to duplicate or re-create that
> code.  Since a major point in my refactoring endeavor is to simplify this
> component, I am hesitant to do that.
>
> I am looking at an alternative, and I would like your opinion when you have
> the time to offer your thoughts.  I have a route template like this:
>
> routeTemplate("recipientListRouteTemplate")
>         .templateParameter("channel")
>         .from("direct:${channel}")
>         .process("${channel}RecipientList");
>
> Then I create a route from this in my DynamicRouterProcessor class like
> this:
>
> String routeId = TemplatedRouteBuilder.builder(camelContext,
> "recipientListRouteTemplate")
>         .parameter("channel", configuration.getChannel())
>         .add();
> Route route = camelContext.getRoute(routeId);
>
> After that, I have code that translates the configuration params into a
> RecipientListDefinition.  After that, I have:
>
> RecipientListReifier reifier = new RecipientListReifier(route, definition);
> camelContext.getRegistry()
>         .bind(configuration.getChannel() + "RecipientList",
> reifier.createProcessor());
>
> When a message comes in for the DynamicRouterProcessor instance to handle,
> the process method handles the exchange like this:
>
> prepareExchange(exchange);
> try (Producer producer = exchange.getContext().getEndpoint("direct:" +
> channel).createProducer()) {
>     producer.process(exchange);
> }
>
> That was as far as I got yesterday in my implementation, so I was not yet
> able to test it.  Is this a terrible idea, or do you think it is worth
> trying?  Otherwise, if it's the best option, I could "borrow" the pertinent
> code in the reifier and create the RecipientList instance directly.
>
>
Hi

I think this seems to complicated and also caused a lot of routes to be
added dynamically based on channel names.
And that is overhead as the route would then just be a from -> to.





> Thanks,
> Steve
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 1:19 AM Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > If you need to create the RecipientListProcessor then you dont
> > necessary have to use reifier to do it.
> >
> > We have a few EIPs that are created via annotations
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/5235319d94fbb82f479ca3085b0780c0f144111b/core/camel-api/src/main/java/org/apache/camel/spi/AnnotationBasedProcessorFactory.java#L44
> >
> > You can just create the processor yourself and configure it accordingly.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 12:51 AM Steve973 <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello.  I am attempting to simplify my Dynamic Router EIP component by
> > > using the existing RecipientList implementation from camel-core.
> > >
> > > I was looking at the RecipientListReifier, even though I will not be
> > adding
> > > anything to the Camel DSL.  It looks like it would be perfect for
> setting
> > > up the RecipientList instance.  I can take my configuration class, and
> > > adapt it to a RecipientListDefinition instance.  The problem that I am
> > > encountering is that the RecipientListReifier constructor wants a Route
> > > instance.  When routing recipients send their subscription information
> to
> > > the dynamic router component through its control channel, this is not
> the
> > > route that the actual routing will occur on.  So I have no idea what
> > Route
> > > instance I can provide to the Reifier constructor.  Furthermore, when
> the
> > > dynamic router receives a message, the producer simply calls the
> > processor,
> > > so there is no real route to speak of, even during runtime dynamic
> > routing.
> > >
> > > My questions are:
> > >
> > > 1. Is this a decent approach?  After a recent code review, it occurred
> to
> > > me that I needed to simplify everything, and this would do that.  The
> > > component would only need to manage subscriptions, and evaluate
> exchanges
> > > for recipients.
> > >
> > > 2. What should I use as the Route instance for the Reifier constructor?
> > > Would it be a good idea to create a RouteBuilder for each dynamic
> routing
> > > channel that subscribers are using?  It would go from
> > "direct:channelName"
> > > and then to the processor.  That still leaves me confused about how to
> > > use my component/endpoint configuration to set the options on the
> > > RecipientList through the Reifier.  It's a chicken/egg scenario:  the
> > > RecipientListReifier needs the Route, and the Route needs the
> processor.
> > >
> > > 3. What other approach am I missing that might be better than this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steve
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Claus Ibsen
> > -----------------
> > @davsclaus
> > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
> >
>


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