Can't say I'd support a separate log for each ssvm but a different log for each zone isn't a bad idea. Could be worth a feature request!
Best regards, David Comerford ------------------------ Tel: +353 87 1238295 Email: davest...@gmail.com Website: http://dave.ie GPG key: http://gpg.dave.ie On 24 July 2013 00:11, Caleb Call <calebc...@me.com> wrote: > Yep, still no new console proxy vm. I'll have to take a look at the logs > to see what's going on. > > side note: I wish each zone would log to a separate log, or system vm > activity would log to a separate log from the user instances. > > On Jul 23, 2013, at 2:40 PM, David Comerford <davest...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yeah, should be a couple of minutes at most. > > If you don't have it yet it's time to examine the logs. > > > > > > Best regards, > > David Comerford > > ------------------------ > > Tel: +353 87 1238295 > > Email: davest...@gmail.com > > Website: http://dave.ie > > GPG key: http://gpg.dave.ie > > > > > > On 23 July 2013 19:35, Dean Kamali <dean.kam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I destroyed proxy vm few days ago, and in about 30 seconds or so I saw > the > >> new one getting created and started in about 1 -2 min. > >> > >> environment: cs 4.1 xenserver 6.0.2 > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Caleb Call <calebc...@me.com> wrote: > >> > >>> That's odd because of all my zones, this is the only one I haven't > moved > >> a > >>> hypervisor in or out of since being built. > >>> > >>> I destroyed the Console Proxy VM, how long should it take before CS > spins > >>> a new one up? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> On Jul 22, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ahmad Emneina <aemne...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hey Caleb, looks like the host the console proxy used to live on is > >> gone. > >>>> see: > >>>> The last host of this VM cannot be found > >>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,142 DEBUG [cloud.deploy.FirstFitPlanner] > >>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) Cannot choose the last host to deploy this > >> VM > >>>> > >>>> what I would do is nuke (destroy) the console proxy vm, and allow > >>>> cloudstack to spin up a new one. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Caleb Call <calebc...@me.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Primary storage is not in maintenance mode and is available. I have > a > >>>>> couple dozen VMs running from this same primary storage and the SSVM > >> and > >>>>> router VM are both running from this same storage. Only the console > >>> proxy > >>>>> seems to be having a problem. > >>>>> > >>>>> $ ./cloudAPI.pl -c listStoragePools -p > >>>>> clusterid=f200c92f-5937-43c7-8bf5-6593f7311400 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > https://cloud.overstock.com/client/api?apiKey=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&clusterid=f200c92f-5937-43c7-8bf5-6593f7311400&command=listStoragePools&response=json&signature=xxxxxxxxxxxxx{ > >>>>> "liststoragepoolsresponse" : { > >>>>> "storagepool" : [ > >>>>> { > >>>>> "clusterid" : "f200c92f-5937-43c7-8bf5-6593f7311400", > >>>>> "zonename" : "Offshore", > >>>>> "state" : "Up", > >>>>> "disksizeallocated" : 359196000256, > >>>>> "podid" : "20eff451-3edd-4366-8ab2-60f2390e5134", > >>>>> "podname" : "Offshore", > >>>>> "id" : "OFFSHORE_FC_LUN01", > >>>>> "clustername" : "Offshore", > >>>>> "zoneid" : "8e1c49fc-a5b3-44bb-9d54-932b0047eed0", > >>>>> "name" : "OFFSHORE_FC_LUN01", > >>>>> "disksizeused" : 360047443968, > >>>>> "path" : "/OFFSHORE_FC_LUN01", > >>>>> "disksizetotal" : 1099499044864, > >>>>> "tags" : "", > >>>>> "created" : "2013-06-08T15:45:05-0600", > >>>>> "type" : "PreSetup", > >>>>> "ipaddress" : "localhost" > >>>>> } > >>>>> ], > >>>>> "count" : 1 > >>>>> } > >>>>> } > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:06 PM, David Comerford <davest...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>>> For some reason I was thinking the system VMs lived on the > secondary > >>>>>> storage, but I'm probably wrong on that. > >>>>>> The templates for the system VM's live on secondary storage, then > >> they > >>>>> are > >>>>>> deployed to primary storage. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Allocator seems happy enough to use host id 51 but theres no primary > >>>>>> storage available in cluster id 9. > >>>>>> Is it in maintenance mode or anything? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 'list storagepools' in cloudmonkey might shed some light. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Best regards, > >>>>>> David Comerford > >>>>>> ------------------------ > >>>>>> Tel: +353 87 1238295 > >>>>>> Email: davest...@gmail.com > >>>>>> Website: http://dave.ie > >>>>>> GPG key: http://gpg.dave.ie <http://pgp.dave.ie> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 18 July 2013 21:27, Bradley Hieber <mercsni...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> pastebin please > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Caleb Call <calebc...@me.com> > >> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> When trying to start the console proxy in one of my zones fails. > >> I'm > >>>>>>>> getting an error that says "no suitable storagePools for in this > >>>>>>> cluster". > >>>>>>>> Which storage pool would this be? For some reason I was thinking > >> the > >>>>>>>> system VMs lived on the secondary storage, but I'm probably wrong > >> on > >>>>>>> that. > >>>>>>>> Either way, I have ~700GB of free space on my primary storage and > >>>>> ~500GB > >>>>>>>> free in my secondary storage, what else is this looking for to be > >>> able > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>> start this console proxy? I've included the logs around this > >> event. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,031 DEBUG [cloud.api.ApiServlet] > >>>>>>>> (catalina-exec-13:null) ===START=== 10.4.108.254 -- GET > >>>>>>>> command=startSystemVm&id=d10d7f57 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > -8b1b-45b2-9875-8c18995ac37b&response=json&sessionkey=uMQLwJmB8uyPSQeSiSBXo04naus%3D&_=1374177759969 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,033 DEBUG [ehcache.store.MemoryStore] > >>>>>>>> (catalina-exec-13:null) UserDaoCache: UserDaoMemoryStore hit for > 10 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,112 DEBUG [cloud.async.AsyncJobManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (catalina-exec-13:null) submit async job-5916, details: AsyncJobVO > >>>>>>>> {id:5916, use > >>>>>>>> rId: 10, accountId: 7, sessionKey: null, instanceType: SystemVm, > >>>>>>>> instanceId: 1024, cmd: com.cloud.api.commands.StartSystemVMCmd, > >>>>>>>> cmdOriginator: > >>>>>>>> null, cmdInfo: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > {"response":"json","id":"d10d7f57-8b1b-45b2-9875-8c18995ac37b","sessionkey":"uMQLwJmB8uyPSQeSiSBXo04naus\u003d","ctxUserId":"10", > >>>>>>>> "_":"1374177759969","ctxAccountId":"7","ctxStartEventId":"18978"}, > >>>>>>>> cmdVersion: 0, callbackType: 0, callbackAddress: null, status: 0, > >>>>>>>> processStat > >>>>>>>> us: 0, resultCode: 0, result: null, initMsid: 145320940120008, > >>>>>>>> completeMsid: null, lastUpdated: null, lastPolled: null, created: > >>> null} > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,113 DEBUG [cloud.async.AsyncJobManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) Executing > >>>>>>>> com.cloud.api.commands.StartSystemVMCmd for > >>>>>>>> job-5916 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,114 DEBUG [cloud.api.ApiServlet] > >>>>>>>> (catalina-exec-13:null) ===END=== 10.4.108.254 -- GET > >>>>>>>> command=startSystemVm&id=d10d7f57-8 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > b1b-45b2-9875-8c18995ac37b&response=json&sessionkey=uMQLwJmB8uyPSQeSiSBXo04naus%3D&_=1374177759969 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,125 DEBUG [cloud.capacity.CapacityManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) VM state transitted from :Stopped to > >>>>> Starting > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>> event: StartRequestedvm's original host id: 25 new host id: null > >> host > >>>>> id > >>>>>>>> before state transition: null > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,125 DEBUG [cloud.vm.VirtualMachineManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) Successfully transitioned to start > state > >>> for > >>>>>>>> VM[Co > >>>>>>>> nsoleProxy|v-1024-VM] reservation id = > >>>>>>> c9a532cb-3976-4284-ab2e-17d7d5dca070 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,138 DEBUG [ehcache.store.MemoryStore] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) ServiceOfferingDaoCache: > >>>>>>>> ServiceOfferingDaoMemoryStore hit > >>>>>>>> for 8 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,138 DEBUG [ehcache.store.MemoryStore] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) VMTemplateDaoCache: > >>> VMTemplateDaoMemoryStore > >>>>>>> hit > >>>>>>>> for 1 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,138 DEBUG [cloud.vm.VirtualMachineManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) Trying to deploy VM, vm has dcId: 5 and > >>>>>>> podId: 8 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,138 DEBUG [cloud.vm.VirtualMachineManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) Deploy avoids pods: null, clusters: > >> null, > >>>>>>> hosts: > >>>>>>>> n > >>>>>>>> ull > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,140 DEBUG [ehcache.store.MemoryStore] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) DataCenterDaoCache: > >>> DataCenterDaoMemoryStore > >>>>>>> hit > >>>>>>>> for 5 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,141 DEBUG [cloud.deploy.FirstFitPlanner] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) DeploymentPlanner allocation algorithm: > >>>>> random > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,141 DEBUG [cloud.deploy.FirstFitPlanner] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) Trying to allocate a host and storage > >>> pools > >>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> dc:5, p > >>>>>>>> od:8,cluster:null, requested cpu: 500, requested ram: 1073741824 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,141 DEBUG [cloud.deploy.FirstFitPlanner] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) Is ROOT volume READY (pool already > >>>>>>> allocated)?: > >>>>>>>> No > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,141 DEBUG [cloud.deploy.FirstFitPlanner] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) This VM has last host_id specified, > >> trying > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>> choose the > >>>>>>>> same host: 25 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,142 DEBUG [cloud.deploy.FirstFitPlanner] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) The last host of this VM cannot be > found > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,142 DEBUG [cloud.deploy.FirstFitPlanner] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) Cannot choose the last host to deploy > >> this > >>>>> VM > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,142 DEBUG [cloud.deploy.FirstFitPlanner] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) Searching resources only under > specified > >>>>> Pod: > >>>>>>> 8 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,142 DEBUG [ehcache.store.MemoryStore] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) HostPodDaoCache: HostPodDaoMemoryStore > >> hit > >>>>>>> for 8 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,142 DEBUG [ehcache.store.MemoryStore] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) DataCenterDaoCache: > >>> DataCenterDaoMemoryStore > >>>>>>> hit > >>>>>>>> for 5 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,143 DEBUG [cloud.deploy.FirstFitPlanner] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) Listing clusters in order of aggregate > >>>>>>> capacity, > >>>>>>>> that ha > >>>>>>>> ve (atleast one host with) enough CPU and RAM capacity under this > >>> Pod: > >>>>> 8 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,143 DEBUG [cloud.deploy.FirstFitPlanner] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) CPUOverprovisioningFactor considered: > >> 5.0 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,150 DEBUG [cloud.deploy.FirstFitPlanner] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) Checking resources in Cluster: 9 under > >>> Pod: > >>>>> 8 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,150 DEBUG [cloud.deploy.FirstFitPlanner] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) Calling HostAllocators to find suitable > >>>>> hosts > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,150 DEBUG [allocator.impl.FirstFitAllocator] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916 FirstFitRoutingAllocator) Looking for > >> hosts > >>>>> in > >>>>>>>> dc: 5 > >>>>>>>> pod:8 cluster:9 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,152 DEBUG [allocator.impl.FirstFitAllocator] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916 FirstFitRoutingAllocator) > >> FirstFitAllocator > >>>>>>> has 1 > >>>>>>>> hos > >>>>>>>> ts to check for allocation: [Host[-51-Routing]] > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,154 DEBUG [allocator.impl.FirstFitAllocator] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916 FirstFitRoutingAllocator) Found 1 hosts > >> for > >>>>>>>> allocation after prioritization: [Host[-51-Routing]] > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,154 DEBUG [allocator.impl.FirstFitAllocator] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916 FirstFitRoutingAllocator) Looking for > >>>>>>>> speed=500Mhz, Ram=1024 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,155 DEBUG [cloud.capacity.CapacityManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916 FirstFitRoutingAllocator) Checking if > >> host: > >>>>> 51 > >>>>>>>> has enough capacity for requested CPU: 500 and requested RAM: > >>>>> 1073741824 > >>>>>>> , > >>>>>>>> cpuOverprovisioningFactor: 5.0 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,157 DEBUG [cloud.capacity.CapacityManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916 FirstFitRoutingAllocator) Hosts's actual > >>>>> total > >>>>>>>> CPU: 70400 and CPU after applying overprovisioning: 352000 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,157 DEBUG [cloud.capacity.CapacityManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916 FirstFitRoutingAllocator) Free CPU: > >> 303000 > >>> , > >>>>>>>> Requested CPU: 500 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,157 DEBUG [cloud.capacity.CapacityManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916 FirstFitRoutingAllocator) Free RAM: > >>>>>>> 342436691072 > >>>>>>>> , Requested RAM: 1073741824 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,157 DEBUG [cloud.capacity.CapacityManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916 FirstFitRoutingAllocator) Host has > enough > >>> CPU > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> RAM available > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,157 DEBUG [cloud.capacity.CapacityManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916 FirstFitRoutingAllocator) STATS: Can > >> alloc > >>>>> CPU > >>>>>>>> from host: 51, used: 49000, reserved: 0, actual total: 70400, > total > >>>>> with > >>>>>>>> overprovisioning: 352000; requested > >>> cpu:500,alloc_from_last_host?:false > >>>>>>>> ,considerReservedCapacity?: true > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,157 DEBUG [cloud.capacity.CapacityManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916 FirstFitRoutingAllocator) STATS: Can > >> alloc > >>>>> MEM > >>>>>>>> from host: 51, used: 62478352384, reserved: 0, total: > 404915043456; > >>>>>>>> requested mem: 1073741824,alloc_from_last_host?:false > >>>>>>>> ,considerReservedCapacity?: true > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,157 DEBUG [allocator.impl.FirstFitAllocator] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916 FirstFitRoutingAllocator) Found a > >> suitable > >>>>>>> host, > >>>>>>>> adding to list: 51 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,157 DEBUG [allocator.impl.FirstFitAllocator] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916 FirstFitRoutingAllocator) Host Allocator > >>>>>>>> returning 1 suitable hosts > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,159 DEBUG [cloud.deploy.FirstFitPlanner] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) No suitable pools found > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,159 DEBUG [cloud.deploy.FirstFitPlanner] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) No suitable storagePools found under > >> this > >>>>>>>> Cluster: 9 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,159 DEBUG [cloud.deploy.FirstFitPlanner] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) Could not find suitable Deployment > >>>>> Destination > >>>>>>>> for this VM under any clusters, returning. > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,186 DEBUG [cloud.capacity.CapacityManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) VM state transitted from :Starting to > >>>>> Stopped > >>>>>>>> with event: OperationFailedvm's original host id: 25 new host id: > >>> null > >>>>>>> host > >>>>>>>> id before state transition: null > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,186 DEBUG [ehcache.store.MemoryStore] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) ServiceOfferingDaoCache: > >>>>>>>> ServiceOfferingDaoMemoryStore hit for 8 > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,188 WARN > >>>>>>> [cloud.consoleproxy.ConsoleProxyManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) Exception while trying to start console > >>>>> proxy > >>>>>>>> com.cloud.exception.InsufficientServerCapacityException: Unable to > >>>>> create > >>>>>>>> a deployment for VM[ConsoleProxy|v-1024-VM]Scope=interface > >>>>>>>> com.cloud.dc.DataCenter; id=5 > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > com.cloud.vm.VirtualMachineManagerImpl.advanceStart(VirtualMachineManagerImpl.java:734) > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > com.cloud.vm.VirtualMachineManagerImpl.start(VirtualMachineManagerImpl.java:472) > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > com.cloud.vm.VirtualMachineManagerImpl.start(VirtualMachineManagerImpl.java:465) > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > com.cloud.consoleproxy.ConsoleProxyManagerImpl.startProxy(ConsoleProxyManagerImpl.java:627) > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > com.cloud.server.ManagementServerImpl.startConsoleProxy(ManagementServerImpl.java:1911) > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > com.cloud.server.ManagementServerImpl.startSystemVM(ManagementServerImpl.java:2728) > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > com.cloud.api.commands.StartSystemVMCmd.execute(StartSystemVMCmd.java:107) > >>>>>>>> at > >> com.cloud.api.ApiDispatcher.dispatch(ApiDispatcher.java:138) > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>> > >>> com.cloud.async.AsyncJobManagerImpl$1.run(AsyncJobManagerImpl.java:432) > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>> > >>> java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471) > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:334) > >>>>>>>> at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:166) > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1146) > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:615) > >>>>>>>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:679) > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,189 WARN [cloud.api.ApiDispatcher] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) class com.cloud.api.ServerApiException > : > >>>>> Fail > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> start system vm > >>>>>>>> 2013-07-18 14:02:40,189 DEBUG [cloud.async.AsyncJobManagerImpl] > >>>>>>>> (Job-Executor-43:job-5916) Complete async job-5916, jobStatus: 2, > >>>>>>>> resultCode: 530, result: Error Code: 530 Error text: Fail to start > >>>>>>> system vm > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Brad > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >
