I was avoiding the convo and looking forward to the Denver talk, but since HB 
was directly mentioned...

We use Hostbill…opinions are mixed, mostly because they encrypt the php code so 
we can’t easily modify things. We are not yet using the metered billing 
functionality.

Hostbill’s management are engineers with little business sense, and 
unfortunately frequently rub customers the wrong way, as a result customers 
have created their own forums[1] I think when hb shut down the ones they used 
to run. They’re quick to respond, the the product is constantly gaining new 
functionality, so there are a lot of positives about the product.

Actually, browsing around, I see they charge new customers for the CS module 
now…sigh.

What I’d say is if you’re looking to run a clean/simple public IaaS and need a 
customer control panel/billing solution, consider HB. If you expect to need 
more functionality than on their CS page [2], at some point it’ll be better to 
build in-house.

I’d love to see a solid open-source replacement for things like WHMCS/Hostbill, 
but this is one of those areas where companies tend to build in-house.

John
1:http://hostbillforums.com/
2:http://hostbillapp.com/features/apps/cloudstack.html

On Mar 6, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Juan Gomez <juan.go...@kumo.com.co> wrote:

> Does anyone know in more depth if Hostbill is a good solution for billing 
> with cloudstack? Or how was your experience using Hostbill integrated with 
> cloudstack?.
> 
> De: Adrian Lewis 
> <adr...@alsiconsulting.co.uk<mailto:adr...@alsiconsulting.co.uk>>
> Responder a: 
> "users@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org>" 
> <users@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org>>
> Fecha: jueves, 6 de marzo de 2014 8:57 a.m.
> Para: "users@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org>" 
> <users@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org>>
> Asunto: RE: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API
> 
> Not sure of the quality or its applicability to what you're doing but
> Hostbill have recently updated their Cloudstack integration to work with
> the usage data for a more utility-like way of billing.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Juan Gomez [mailto:juan.go...@kumo.com.co]
> Sent: 06 March 2014 13:54
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API
> 
> Thank you all for your help, this user list is great.
> 
> De: ilya musayev
> <ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.com<mailto:ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.com><mailto:ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.com>>
> Responder a:
> "users@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org><mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org>"
> <users@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org><mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org>>
> Fecha: miércoles, 5 de marzo de 2014 5:58 p.m.
> Para: 
> "users@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org><mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org>"
> <users@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org><mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org>>
> Asunto: Re: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API
> 
> We've used Amysta for CloudStack Billing Solution. Easy to integrate,
> flexible and affordable.
> 
> I've done a demo here. Fast forward to 10:45 (this is an older version,
> newer is obviously better) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wuEPoxVlBM
> 
> On Wednesday, March 5, 2014, Paul Angus
> <paul.an...@shapeblue.com<mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com><mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com>>
>  wrote:
> Hi Juan,
> 
> We (ShapeBlue) have done a number of projects involving billing
> integration with Cloud Portal Business Manager so we would certainly have
> insights into how this can be achieved. Perhaps you should get in touch
> with us off-list
> 
> Regards
> 
> Paul Angus
> Cloud Architect
> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: CloudyAngus
> paul.an...@shapeblue.com<mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com><mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Juan Gomez [mailto:juan.go...@kumo.com.co]
> Sent: 05 March 2014 16:23
> To: 
> users@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org><mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API
> 
> Hi everyone
> 
> I work for a company name Kumo (www.kumo.com.co). We are one of the most
> important public clouds in Colombia, all of our platforms are based on
> cloudstack and Cloud business portal. Right now we have a very complex
> problem because we are not being able to bill our costumers automatically.
> This is because all of our costumers have different prices for the same
> kind of product or VM, this is due to commercial issues and negotiations
> that are necessary to do in the colombian market. So we want to build a
> billing web application using the cloudstack API in order to create bills
> for costumers in an automatically way and also send alerts and take
> actions to suspend services if payments are not being received. Does
> anyone know examples of this kind of application using the cloudstack API,
> or have any insights on how we should approach this problem.
> 
> Thank you for your help and pardon my bad spelling.
> 
> 
> 
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