Thanks Paul and Kristoffer, I'll check out what's the deal with this ScaleIO.
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Nux! www.nux.ro ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Angus" <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org > Sent: Wednesday, 9 December, 2015 09:09:09 > Subject: RE: ACS + XenServer + DAS ? > Hey Nux, > > Something like ScaleIO might fit your use case (there is a community version > as > well the commercial version owned by EMC now) > We've had a couple of customers who swear by it for awesome performance. > > > > > Paul Angus > VP Technology , ShapeBlue > > > d: +44 2036170528<tel:+44%202036170528> | t: > @cloudyangus<tel:@cloudyangus> | m: +44 > 7711418784<tel:+44%207711418784> > > e: paul.an...@shapeblue.com<mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com> | > w: www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com> > > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HS UK > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dag Sonstebo [mailto:dag.sonst...@shapeblue.com] > Sent: 09 December 2015 09:05 > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: ACS + XenServer + DAS ? > > Hi Lucian, > > What is your use case for this project, and what are your concerns around > network limiting your storage speed? If you put a storage front end server > (NFS, iSCSI) on top of the DAS and link up with 10gig networking you should > get > decent performance - there’s plenty of large scale production environments > using IP based storage. Personally I’ve ran XenServer with an iSCSI backend > over 10gig in the past and even during ACS boot storms never managed to push > the network links past 20-30% utilisation. > > Regards, > Dag Sonstebo > Cloud Architect > ShapeBlue > > > > > > On 09/12/2015, 08:48, "Nux!" <n...@li.nux.ro> wrote: > >>Hi Timothy, >> >>I do not have exact numbers in my head. This was sort of dumped on to >>me, but it's clear to me now XenServer will not/cannot use that DAS+SAS >>conectors as shared storage. I'm sure we'll find some alternative. :) >> >>Thanks >> >>-- >>Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! >> >>Nux! >>www.nux.ro >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Timothy Lothering" <tlother...@datacentrix.co.za> >>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org, "kristoffer sheather" >>> <kristoffer.sheat...@cloudcentral.com.au>, "Vadim Kimlaychuk" >>> <va...@kickcloud.net> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 9 December, 2015 06:31:31 >>> Subject: RE: ACS + XenServer + DAS ? >> >>> Hey Nux, >>> >>> I have worked with a DAS before (albeit DELL), it depends on how it >>> is segregated, in my case, I used it for Exchange and it was seen as >>> shared storage. >>> >>> If you are looking for performance, you have 12Gbps in total, but you >>> might want more. What configuration were you looking at? Throughput, I/O, >>> Host >>> count etc? >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> >>> Timothy Lothering >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral >>> [mailto:kristoffer.sheat...@cloudcentral.com.au] >>> Sent: Wednesday, 09 December 2015 12:37 AM >>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org; Vadim Kimlaychuk >>> <va...@kickcloud.net> >>> Subject: Re: ACS + XenServer + DAS ? >>> >>> What you need is something like EMC ScaleIO or VMware VSAN that >>> leverages DAS but replicates over the network for resiliency and scale. >>> Regards, >>> >>> Kristoffer Sheather >>> CloudCentral >>> >>> Mobile: +61 475 048 864 | Switch: +61 2 6160 7624 | Email: >>> k...@cloudcentral.com.au >>> LinkedIn: | Skype: kristoffer.sheather | Twitter: >>> http://twitter.com/kristofferjon >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> From: "Nux!" <n...@li.nux.ro> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 6:26 AM >>> To: "Vadim Kimlaychuk" <va...@kickcloud.net> >>> Cc: users@cloudstack.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: ACS + XenServer + DAS ? >>> Vadim, >>> >>> Let's say this >>> http://www.supermicro.co.uk/products/chassis/3U/836/SC836BE2C-R1K03JB >>> OD.cfm >>> >>> >>> plus a LSI Megaraid card. >>> >>> It has 8 x Mini-SAS ports that I can connect hypervisors to, but from >>> what I read and from what Simon says ( :> ) that doesn't give me >>> shared storage unless I re-export it from another computer. >>> Doing this beats the purpose in a way, because I wanted speed.. If I >>> go over the network I lose that. >>> >>> So it starts to be clear to me DAS is not what I need. :) >>> >>> Lucian >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! >>> >>> Nux! >>> www.nux.ro >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Vadim Kimlaychuk" <va...@kickcloud.net> >>>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org >>>> Cc: "Nux!" <n...@li.nux.ro> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 8 December, 2015 19:15:46 >>>> Subject: Re: ACS + XenServer + DAS ? >>> Timothy Lothering >>> Solutions Architect >>> Managed Services >>> >>> T: +27877415535 >>> F: +27877415100 >>> C: +27824904099 >>> E: tlother...@datacentrix.co.za >>> >>> >>> DISCLAIMER NOTICE: >>> >>> Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relating to the >>> official business of Datacentrix Holdings Ltd. and its subsidiaries >>> ('Datacentrix') is proprietary to Datacentrix. It is confidential, >>> legally privileged and protected by law. Datacentrix does not own and >>> endorse any other content. 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