Hi Dag,

Thanks for helping me understand the requirement of advanced networking.
Sorry if I have missed something obvious or my question seems stupid, but I
am just starting to learn. Can you help me out on how to setup VLAN
"tagging" on one machine? I have tried several methods and tutorials I
could find on the internet for VLANs, but none mention "tagging".

Also, I do not fully understand private virtual bridge..... Means I create
an interface file for bridge but mention no physical interface device? Is
it similar to how cloud0 is configured for link local network of System
VMs? I could probably do that, but I don't know much about configuring VLAN
tagging. I would appreciate if you could give me some guidance or point me
where you think some good documentation is given for CentOS/RHEL hosts for
configuring bridges with VLAN tagging (I have tried but failed to
understand most of them). I am especially stuck at understanding this
"tagging" of VLANs.

Thanks,
Parth Patel

On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 at 15:17 Dag Sonstebo <dag.sonst...@shapeblue.com>
wrote:

> Hi Parth,
>
> Yes and no.
>
> No – you cannot do advanced zones with *all three* KVM hosts and advanced
> networking without using VLANs (or another isolation mechanism) and still
> expect traffic to flow between VMs/VRs on different KVM hosts.
>
> Yes – you can probably do this *on a single KVM host* – but you will have
> to use VLAN tagging internally – this can however be done on a virtual
> bridge interface, i.e. the L2 traffic doesn’t ever leave that host.
>
> Without deep diving into this I think it would look like this:
>
> Physical eth0 -> cloudbr0 > handles management and public
> No nic -> private virtual bridge cloudbr1 > handles isolated guest traffic
> but allows for isolated VLANs internally on the host
>
> Regards,
> Dag Sonstebo
> Cloud Architect
> ShapeBlue
>
>
> dag.sonst...@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com
> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
> @shapeblue
>
>
>
> On 29/03/2018, 09:25, "Parth Patel" <parthpatel2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi Dag,
>
>     Thanks for the reply. I am trying to use Shapeblue CCS (Container as a
>     Service) with ACS, but for that Isolated networks are required which
> are
>     only available in Advanced Zone. Further, I want to explore Cloudstack
>     further and am also aiming to test and configure other advanced
> features
>     such as load balancing and auto scaling without netscaler device. For
> that
>     I badly need Advanced Zone networking (especially isolated networks
>     offerings). I just want to know if Advanced Zone can succesfully
> function
>     with two networks, one physcial NIC and no VLAN tagging.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Parth Patel
>
>     On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 at 13:48 Dag Sonstebo <dag.sonst...@shapeblue.com>
>     wrote:
>
>     > Hi Parth,
>     >
>     > Not sure if I follow. Generally, your management network is untagged,
>     > whilst your public and isolated networks tagged. The underlying idea
> of
>     > advanced zones is you must have network isolation between multiple
> guest
>     > networks, otherwise you have no privacy/security. You can do this
> either at
>     > L2 with VLAN tagging, which is the simplest, or with L3 using
> various SDN
>     > overlay network solutions (more complicated and comes at a cost).
>     >
>     > If you don’t want to tag anything you’re probably better off using
> basic
>     > networks, where I believe you could use a single flat subnet (happy
> to be
>     > proven wrong).
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     > Dag Sonstebo
>     > Cloud Architect
>     > ShapeBlue
>     >
>     >
>     > dag.sonst...@shapeblue.com
>     > www.shapeblue.com
>     > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
>     > @shapeblue
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On 29/03/2018, 08:48, "Parth Patel" <parthpatel2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi all,
>     >
>     >     After banging my head with different network configuration
>     > permutations, I
>     >     don't understand what is the issue with Network Guru here and
> why it
>     > can't
>     >     implement the isolated guest network. I just want to know if
> Advanced
>     > Zone
>     >     can be successfully setup or has someone configured an advanced
> zone
>     > using
>     >     untagged VLAN traffic?
>     >
>     >     I have the following configuration of components:
>     >     - I have 3 (16 GB Ram and 4 Cores) machines each with 1 physical
> NIC.
>     >     - I have two networks: 192.168.20.0/24 (using this for isolated
> guest
>     >     network) and 172.16.20.0/16 (management server and NFS servers
>     > network)
>     >     - I am using KVM hypervisor and NFS for storage.
>     >     - Currently, the output of brctl show is (when the Cloudstack is
> not
>     >     running, other wise the interface are populated with three vnets
> for
>     > cloud0
>     >     and 4-5 vnets for cloudbr0):
>     >     bridge name     bridge id               STP enabled
>  interfaces
>     >     cloud0          8000.000000000000       no
>     >     cloudbr0                8000.3464a92a083a       no
> eno1
>     >     virbr0          8000.525400daae23       yes
>  virbr0-nic
>     >
>     >     My earlier doubt was if I can configure advanced zone with one
> physical
>     >     interface available in each host, but that was resolved when I
> read
>     > this
>     >     post of ShankerBalan:
>     >
>     >
> https://shankerbalan.net/blog/cloudstack-simple-advanced-network-example/
>     >
>     >     ACS throws InsufficientVirtualNetworkCapacity exception and
> lines like:
>     >     "NetworkGuru can't implement network [275||15]" are printed in
>     > management
>     >     server logs when I try to create a simple CentOS 5.5 NoGUI KVM
> instance
>     >     after a complete and fresh install of ACS (even of CentOS).
>     >
>     >     My main doubt here is if I can successfully configure an
> advanced zone
>     > with
>     >     two networks but with untagged VLAN traffic ? I can't currently
>     > configure
>     >     the router or switches to allow tagged VLAN networking as I am
> doing
>     > this
>     >     project in my university. But, I have requested and gained
> access to
>     > the
>     >     mentioned two networks: 192.168.20.0/24 and 172.16.20.0/16 and
> both
>     >     networks are pingable and have internet access across all three
>     > machines.
>     >     Can anyone help me with this please?
>     >
>     >     Thanks,
>     >     Parth Patel
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
>
>

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