Coming from vmware environments where vcenter has almost always been a
hosted vm. You could give mgmt node highest priority over other VMs, but
safe approach as you stated is to keep it outside. Environment I am stand
up is going to be very light use and wanting to keep infrastructure as
light as possible.

2 KVM hosts
1 mgmt hosts (as it seems now)
ceph cluster for shared stroage (overkill, but I need redundancy and
ability to grow if we expand foot print)


On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 3:09 PM Andrija Panic <andrija.pa...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> In short,
>
> Never, EVER, do such thing (especially in production of any kind).
>
> Mgmt server (any auxiliary components like standalone DB server, billing
> software, monitoring software, load balancers etc - all things that are
> needed for production...) can be on KVM nodes, but a standalone KVM nodes,
> which are NOT managed by CloudStack. Whether you use VMM from Linux
> Desktop, plain/manual management via libvirt and "nano" etc...all good as
> long as not managed by ACS - you want to avoid cyclic dependency and mgmt
> server issues due to high host usage/overload, etc, etc, etc.
>
> Regards,
> Andrija
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 20:48 <jesse.wat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How are most of you running your management node? On a standalone host(s)
> > outside hypervisors? On managed hypervisor hosts?
> >
> > What I want to do is have management node on kvm hosts that it manages.
> > What I am not certain is how I get it in there in 1st place. Other than
> > standing up a temporary mgmt node, get it managing the kvm hosts. Then
> > stand new mgmt node from with in.
> >
> > Thoughts recommendations, I'm wondering about best practice and worst
> case
> > scenario where all hosts lose power (dr different issue in itself). How
> > will I start mgmt node if there is no mgmt node to start it. virsh start
> > mgmtnnode?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> >  Jesse
> >
>

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