Understood, and you are right. KVM  + iSCSI/shared mount point (requires
clustered file system), is, from my POV, a no-go for production (it's
different with VMware and XenSeverm whos's support for such thing is
excellent/for production use)

On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 at 09:37, Pieter Koorts <pieter.koo...@me.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Unless CloudStack has a way to automatically attach iSCSI storage to each
> virtual machine directly then a clustered filesystem (C-LVM or OCFS2) is
> needed to store the VM data as it is the only way to have all compute hosts
> to have access to the same data for live migrations and HA when using iSCSI
> SANs. At least that's my understanding.
>
> I was comparing clustered file systems on Hyper-V (CSV) and Linux (C-LVM
> or OCFS2) and why Hyper-V has excellent support for it.
>
> One of the reasons we use Hyper-V Server is this feature but to us a
> hypervisor is replaceable, the reliability of the virtual machines within
> is not.
>
> Thank you
>
> Pieter
>
> On 4 March 2021 at 20:51, Andrija Panic <andrija.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Struggling to understand why you are mentioning a clustered filesystem on
> Linux? (but I do agree all of them are to be avoided, 99% of the time)
>
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 17:25, Pieter Koorts <pieter.koo...@me.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> We currently use Hyper-V with an iSCSI SAN since Hyper-V does excellent at
>
> fast shared storage with Windows CSV. The system is reliable but very
>
> inflexible to changes in strategies when deploying workloads.
>
>
> Moving to Linux as a hypervisor isn't too much of an issue as we do use
>
> Ubuntu 20.x for many of our workloads just that the only clustered storage
>
> options for Linux is either Clustered LVM or OCFS2
>
>
> Never used any "modern" form of OCFS2 deployment so cannot say anything
>
> regarding it's performance or reliability but past experiences with
>
> Clustered LVM makes me shudder. Had a few machines silently corrupt with
>
> Clustered LVM.
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Pieter
>
>
> On 2 March 2021 at 15:38, Andrija Panic <andrija.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> It goes without saying that once a big company get's interest in i.e.
>
> Hyper-V and sponsors the needed development - that is usually a time when
>
> such a huge feature goes in ACS.
>
>
> Do you need any recommendations from real-life on what to go with, in the
>
> CloudStack world?
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 14:06, Pieter Koorts <pieter.koo...@me.com.invalid>
>
> wrote:
>
>
> That is a pity. Hyper-V Server 2019 for example is excellent with great
>
>
> enterprise software support like backup facilities, clustered filesystem
>
>
> (iSCSI SAN's, etc).
>
>
>
> Suppose unless there is traction like with OpenStack (with Hyper-V
>
>
> support), getting the time and developers to deal with it in CloudStack
>
>
> will be hard.
>
>
>
> Will continue my CloudStack research and the options available.
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
> Pieter
>
>
>
> On 2 March 2021 at 12:49, Andrija Panic <andrija.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, I don't thinking CloudStack actually supports (in reality)
>
>
> hyper-v any more - there was the original implementation for Hyper V 2012,
>
>
> but not sure it works any more, at all (and the "VM import" option is
>
>
> available only for VMware, not any other hypervisor, atm)
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 11:16, Pieter Koorts <pieter.koo...@me.com.invalid>
>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Been searching a myriad of places but can't find any concrete information
>
>
>
> about this. From what I understand CloudStack can be implemented on top of
>
>
>
> an existing vSphere installation and machines imported into CloudStacks
>
>
>
> control.
>
>
>
>
> Is the same thing possible on a Hyper-V cluster by chance?
>
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
> Pieter
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Andrija Panić
>
>
>
>
>
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> Andrija Panić
>
>
>
>
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>
> Andrija Panić
>
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