I guess I’m looking for a recovery scenario where the dead vm host is not 
coming back, failed disk, caught on fire, and a reboot isn’t going to help. 

Thanks

> On Jun 18, 2021, at 1:41 AM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Jemery,
> If you don't have IPMI then ACS can not know for sure that the VM won't
> come back. If it comes back the VM would be running twice and this must be
> prevented at all costs. Maybe I am missing some functionality, and someone
> else can give additional options.
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 10:21 AM Jeremy Hansen <jer...@skidrow.la> wrote:
>> 
>> I pasted that from the documentation.  My end goal is if a VM host dies
>> completely and I’m not available to fix it, I would like the VM guests that
>> were running on the failed host to automatically migrate to an available VM
>> host so the guest instances continue to run.  Perhaps that’s not how it
>> works.  The hosts I’m using for testing do not have any kind of IPMI
>> supported out of band management.  They do have network enabled PDUs but
>> let’s just say the VM host is gone completely.  How do I get the VM guests
>> that were running on the failed host back up and running without my
>> intervention? I guess I wrongly assumed Cloudstack would handle this case
>> by just starting the VMs on another available host machine after some kind
>> of failed heartbeat threshold.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> -jeremy
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2021, at 1:09 AM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jeremy,
>>> I don't fully understand your question. You say you are interested in
>>> HostHA specifically but then you ask about restarting VMs when a host
>> dies.
>>> This would not be safe as we can't be sure a host really dies unless you
>>> have HostHA enabled. Consequently you can't guarantee the VM won't
>> suddenly
>>> re-apear when the host is seen running again. So keep these things
>>> separated.
>>> HostHA is for rebooting suspect hosts, not for moving VMs around. I am
>> not
>>> aware of the connection between the two, that you seem to look for.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 11:03 AM Jeremy Hansen <jer...@skidrow.la>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I’m trying to play with HA.  I’ve enabled it via the interface but the
>> HA
>>>> state is labeled as Ineligible.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m specifically interested in this:
>>>> 
>>>> HA for Hosts
>>>> 
>>>> The user can specify a virtual machine as HA-enabled. By default, all
>>>> virtual router VMs and Elastic Load Balancing VMs are automatically
>>>> configured as HA-enabled. When an HA-enabled VM crashes, CloudStack
>> detects
>>>> the crash and restarts the VM automatically within the same Availability
>>>> Zone. HA is never performed across different Availability Zones.
>> CloudStack
>>>> has a conservative policy towards restarting VMs and ensures that there
>>>> will never be two instances of the same VM running at the same time. The
>>>> Management Server attempts to start the VM on another Host in the same
>>>> cluster.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My assumption is if a VM Host dies, whatever guests that were running on
>>>> that host would automatically move to an available VM host.  Maybe I’m
>>>> misinterpreting.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -jeremy
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Daan
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Daan

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