Alex,

So does this mean that the customer will need their own public subnet space in 
the public-public scenario if the VR is just acting as a router? How does this 
work with automatic allocation like it does now?

Regards,
Marty Godsey


From: Alex Mattioli <alex.matti...@shapeblue.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 1, 2024 at 11:28 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <users@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: RE: Public IP on instances
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Building on what Stephan said.

In 4.20 there will be a new feature called "ROUTED mode", in which the ACS VR 
instead of NATting simply routes between two networks, which can be 
private-private, public-private, private-public, or public-public, the last two 
allowing for your end user VMs to have public IPs without the need of Operator 
intervention, also in 4.20 there will be support for BGP in the ACS VR, which 
means that the subnets (Public or otherwise) used by end users in Routed mode 
are automatically advertised upstream.

Either way, be with static or dynamic routing, with Routed mode you'll have 
full control of the public IPs assigned.

There will be a session by Wei Zhoue showcasing this new mode in the next CCC 
on Friday 22nd of November at 11:30am (CEST):  
https://atpscan.global.hornetsecurity.com?d=2_L5ASGiZkQUy3WIwyuwS7ZEKxepbehOc5_5hXyBHbo&f=11FL9O81QOaDecjEcRW18Bc0HDwHHudUjgQm2sZqr9gJbPweH0Shmsafosz_FMYI&i=&k=6QIh&m=xESLIvTl3JcJbFIqHFyvGNC1cUa3dk3JTm5rBb5GnLQJ3vj32DnmC4tQB2MBumH3KUBKIgO_92Wciricec2_QmRLcGT_eCOLZ0_pkooYey0r2M9ujzushgA9RReAifUB&n=-M8F8az2r7mgeJh5YU7MrhqAibcsRyS0M1O0dRutOk5rut1Q8AAkzkeebWTZrnp-&r=EHCXAcWOc9fQZ2opSXDWb5CMVWfKXQzbrDBydD8iFiT8SlLV64-xS7HzpWvCaIqS&s=4abe87433b9f7e516be6a66312b0cfd1832f52c7168732bffd6af7b44d7107b8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cloudstackcollab.org%2F

Cheers,
Alex




-----Original Message-----
From: Stephan Bienek <stephan....@bienek.org>
Sent: 01 October 2024 14:39
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Public IP on instances

We are using L2 networks with for example a /29 public subnet for the customer 
network as well, as Lucian mentioned it.

This approach and quite a few other use cases i will share during my talk at 
CCC 2024 in Madrid.

As an alternative to the L2 /29 approach, which is not the most efficient 
approach if you only need a single IP, you could use a Shared Network with 
specify VLAN, without VR and tell the customer which single IP to use.
In order to make sure no customer is using "wrong" IPs, be sure to use the 
approach Alex Mattioli mentioned once - creating fixed MAC-IP entries on your 
routers.

We combine the L2 network approach with what Swen mentioned, collecting netflow 
data from routers via open source "pmacct" for traffic accounting.
This could help to get per-customer (or per-IP) accounting data even when using 
one shared VR.

Best regards,
Stephan

> Wei ZHOU <ustcweiz...@gmail.com> hat am 01.10.2024 14:11 CEST geschrieben:
>
>
> +1 with what Lucian said.
>
> Please update the value of global setting "vm.network.stats.interval"
> (by default 0), and restart mgmt server.
> then you can get network statistics of each nic on shared networks.
>
> -Wei
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 1:47 PM Nux <n...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
>
> > I thought the traffic usage is taken from the hypervisor, for the
> > VM's NIC.
> > Btw, you can also use L2 networks, may be more flexible and economic
> > (with IPv4 usage).
> >
> > On 2024-10-01 10:24, Alexandru Stan wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I have a specific scenario with ACS that I'm not sure how to
> > > approach, maybe someone here can share a solution/workaround. As
> > > far as I know, the only way to have a public ip directly assigned
> > > to a vm (I mean on the vm's network adapter) is to use a shared
> > > network. But in this case all users would share one router and I
> > > wouldn't be able to track network usage individually, correct? Is
> > > there any other way to do this AND have traffic usage at vm/user
> > > level? Creating multiple shared networks is not an option, it
> > > would require constant monitoring of the routers to keep track of ip 
> > > usage and so on.
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> >

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