Op 13/01/2025 om 17:06 schreef Chi vediamo:
Hello Wido, Thank you so much for taking the time to respond.:

I bonded the interfaces for capacity.


I would just create additional BGP sessions and use ECMP balancing for more capacity.

I was following your YouTube videos and users mail.
Yes, VXLAN seems to be working now. The most dificult/radical part was the 
tunning of the parameres on Ubuntu 22. or should I use a different Linux system?

Let me put on a logic it may clear for me; then, with VXLAN:

Wido: Regarding your Youtube video: To me seems there is a VLAN on the TOR. But 
makes no sense based on what you mention here. What is the VLAN624 being used 
on your Youtube video @time 24:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X02bxtIC0u4


VLAN is a Cumulus naming. These are all VXLAN VNI. In this case I showed the example how Cumulus would be the gateway for VNI 624

Then, Management servers will be on the same vxlan as kvm cloudbr1 then this 
should be the management vxlan. Correct?
Storage I did put the ceph on vxlan2 with BGP; then, should I removed from 
vxlan ior keep it on the management vxlan? which one should be the best 
practice.?


Storage doesn't need to be in a VNI/VXLAN. It just needs to be reachable by the hypervisor. Plain L3 routing, nothing special. Just make sure both can ping eachother.

This is really just basic routing.



What About Network planning with Cloudstack for NFVs and low latency:

Final Question. Does Cloudstack supports Sriov ? Any documentation besides an 
old document that inidicates we should list the PCI interfaces ? IS there ANy 
documentation about this?


No idea :-)

I was thinnking SRIOV will align better with VXLAN/EVPN
Or do you recommend to use DPDk ?
If DPDK wihich one will you recommend,
  - OpenVswitch - if this is selected then I will have to create the Bridges 
with Openvswitch, and should work with VXLAN/EVPN , right?
  - Or tunsgteen(OpenSDN) - I know Contrail pretty much very well, Not sure if 
there is any documentation about OpenSDN - Formerly Tungteen - with Cloudstack 
and VXLAN/EVPN,
-  Seems VXLAN/EVPN and tungsteen are mutually exclusive, plus not supported on 
Ubuntu 22 as of yet, are both of this statements correct?

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond.

Tata Y.

On Jan 13, 2025, at 8:45 AM, Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl> wrote:



Op 11/01/2025 om 00:36 schreef Chi vediamo:
Forgot to add Wido
The Isolation should start, and should happen at the HOST running KVM, No VLANS 
needed at the Host, neither at the Leafs.
But seems isolation is not happening! using cloudstack 4.20, maybe is a detail 
missing on my side.
What Cloudstac documentation mean with "On the Spine router(s) the VNIs will 
terminate and they will act as IPv4/IPv6 gateways"
DO "Need" vlans to be configured on the Leafs. I will understand if the VM 
isolation is based on VLANS that will be needed, but if the VM Isolation is going to be 
VXLAN
what for I will need the VLANS at the leafs?

No VLANs needed. Forget Guest and Storage traffic. The hypervisor will do 
everything routed! It will talk BGP with the Top-of-Rack.

You will reach your storage via routing without the need of VXLAN, have it 
route through your network.

No need for bonding on your hypervisor either, it just has two BGP uplink 
sessions towards the ToR.

Just connect your storage to your network and make it reachable via L3, same 
goes for the management server.

But before starting to use CloudStack with VXLAN, make sure you get VXLAN 
working without CloudStack so you really understand how VXLAN works.

Wido

based on this scenario from Guido presso:
            [spine1]           [spine2] no ibgp between spines
          /                          /
        /                           /   evpn/bgp unnumbered
      /                           /
    /                            /
[leaf1]-----ibgp---[Leaf2]
     \                           /
      \                         /
        \                      /
          \                  /
        | bond1     bond2 |
        |     [cloudbr1]      |
        |       vxlan1          |
        |       vxlan2          |
        |   Host 1 - KVM   |
        |        SRIOV         |
        --------------------
the vxlan1 will handle the guest traffic
the vxlan2 will handle main storage
I have management over a regular vlan for now but will create a vxlan3 for it
and vxlan2000 for Public traffic.
vxlan1, vxlan2, vxlan3, and vxlan2000 are goint to be created manually or 
Cloudstack should/will create them when I choose the VXLAN for each one of the 
traffic names?
Or should I use VXLAN for the Guest traffic only and use regular vlan isolation 
for the the remaining - management, storage and public ?
I have 4 physical hosts, and i am using same ip addressing on vxlan 1 and vxlan 
2 connect to different leafs and i am still able to ping between them.
Thank you
Tata Y.
On Jan 6, 2025, at 9:08 PM, Chi vediamo <tatay...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hello Community,
First: Thank you Wido, your answers on previous emails to the community help a 
lot. I read the vincent.bernat document, but his example uses VLAN mapping at 
the Switch level.

I was thinking to use the LEAF-SPINE as a transport only , and the seetings on 
the Host will take care of the Isolation.

But is not working that way. Should I create the traditional VXLAN, 
VLAN/VNI/VRF on the LEAF Switches to properly isolate it?
We are using SONIC NOS community version, nothing fancy.

The BGP unnumbered evpn etc works fine.

The output:

vtysh -c 'show interface vxlan2'
VNI: 2
  Type: L2
  Tenant VRF: default
  VxLAN interface: vxlan2
  VxLAN ifIndex: 14
  SVI interface: storage0
  SVI ifIndex: 13
  Local VTEP IP: 172.2.0.60
  Mcast group: 0.0.0.0
  Remote VTEPs for this VNI:
   172.2.0.59 flood: HER
   172.2.0.32 flood: HER
   172.2.0.30 flood: HER
   172.2.0.28 flood: HER
   172.2.0.26 flood: HER

bridge fdb show dev vxlan2
8a:be:71:4c:e0:20 vlan 1 extern_learn master storage0
8a:be:71:4c:e0:20 extern_learn master storage0
b2:33:bb:84:cc:38 vlan 1 extern_learn master storage0
b2:33:bb:84:cc:38 extern_learn master storage0
86:07:90:2b:db:db vlan 1 extern_learn master storage0
86:07:90:2b:db:db extern_learn master storage0
4a:28:60:90:76:42 vlan 1 extern_learn master storage0
4a:28:60:90:76:42 extern_learn master storage0
22:d6:49:9f:08:07 vlan 1 extern_learn master storage0
22:d6:49:9f:08:07 extern_learn master storage0
fe:4a:fb:63:9d:3a vlan 1 extern_learn master storage0
fe:4a:fb:63:9d:3a extern_learn master storage0
ee:78:b4:d8:3f:a0 vlan 1 master storage0 permanent
ee:78:b4:d8:3f:a0 master storage0 permanent
00:00:00:00:00:00 dst 172.2.0.24 self permanent
00:00:00:00:00:00 dst 172.2.0.26 self permanent
00:00:00:00:00:00 dst 172.2.0.28 self permanent
00:00:00:00:00:00 dst 172.2.0.30 self permanent
00:00:00:00:00:00 dst 172.2.0.32 self permanent
00:00:00:00:00:00 dst 172.2.0.59 self permanent

fe:4a:fb:63:9d:3a dst 172.2.0.24 self extern_learn


vtysh -c 'show interface vxlan1'

Interface vxlan1 is up, line protocol is up
   Link ups:       1    last: 2025/01/06 23:53:01.17
   Link downs:     1    last: 2025/01/06 23:53:01.17
   vrf: default
   index 14 metric 0 mtu 9050 speed 4294967295
   flags: <UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>
   Type: Ethernet
   HWaddr: ea:d3:68:02:7d:f7
   inet6 fe80::e8d3:68ff:fe02:7df7/64
   Interface Type Vxlan
   Interface Slave Type None
   VxLAN Id 100 VTEP IP: 10.23.13.14 Access VLAN Id 1

   protodown: off

vtysh -c 'show evpn vni 1'
VNI: 1
  Type: L2
  Tenant VRF: default
  VxLAN interface: vxlan1
  VxLAN ifIndex: 14
  SVI interface: cloudbr1
  SVI ifIndex: 12
  Local VTEP IP: 10.23.13.14
  Mcast group: 0.0.0.0
  No remote VTEPs known for this VNI
  Number of MACs (local and remote) known for this VNI: 0
  Number of ARPs (IPv4 and IPv6, local and remote) known for this VNI: 0
  Advertise-gw-macip: No
  Advertise-svi-macip: No

and I can ping the IPV6 that is routed using the FRR from :60 which is in VXLAN 
2 to :14 which is in VXLAN 1

ping -I 20XX:5XX:56XX:fff0::2:60 20XX:5XX:56XX:fff0:0:2:13:14
PING 20XX:5XX:56XX:fff0:0:2:13:14(20XX:5XX:56XX:fff0:0:2:13:14) from 
20XX:5XX:56XX:fff0::2:60 : 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 20XX:5XX:56XX:fff0:0:2:13:14: icmp_seq=1 ttl=61 time=0.293 ms
64 bytes from 20XX:5XX:56XX:fff0:0:2:13:14: icmp_seq=2 ttl=61 time=0.222 ms


Then, my questions are:
are you using at the Leaf Switches/routers a regular Mapping VLAN to VNI VXLAN 
with VRF ? IF not, Can you share a FRR config of your Switches?
Or should I use an enterprise SONIC switch software ?
What other possibilities are with the modifyvxlan.sh That Wido states on some 
user mails.


Thank you

Tata Y.





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