Hello,
I did that prior to asking in the mailing list.
They mostly express relief that it works when I explicitly tell it to put the
VM on a specific hypervisor and tell me to just do that. They almost went as
far to say that I am lucky "it works at all".
Then if you push them further they complain about how the placement system
inside of Cloudstack is notoriously picky and hard to understand as a user when
it fails.
Thank you,
-Drew
Op 22-10-2026 om 20:45 schreef Drew Weaver:
> Hello,
>
> Thanks you for making me aware of that.
>
> What I ended up doing was creating a new "Network Offering" and then creating
> an additional new "Guest Network" using that new offering.
>
> If I create an instance in the CloudStack UI using this new Guest Network
> (that is configured for ConfigDrive, etc) If I don't tell it exactly what
> host to create the instance on during the creation process it fails like this:
>
> 2026-10-22 13:22:29,719 DEBUG [c.c.d.DeploymentPlanningManagerImpl]
> (API-Job-Executor-82:[ctx-ba6e2ef7, job-144, ctx-5ad14635]) (logid:64143c60)
> Trying to deploy VM [error decoding VM instance
> {"id":17,"instanceName":"i-2-17-VM","state":"Error","type":"User","uuid":"5eec0a30-a0e6-49a4-80d2-ba8aab230ddf"}]
> and details: Plan
> [{"_dcId":2,"_recreateDisks":false,"preferredHostIds":[],"migrationPlan":false,"hostPriorities":{}}];
> avoid list [{}] and planner: [null].
> 2026-10-22 13:22:29,720 DEBUG [c.c.d.DeploymentPlanningManagerImpl]
> (API-Job-Executor-82:[ctx-ba6e2ef7, job-144, ctx-5ad14635]) (logid:64143c60)
> Checking non dedicated resources to deploy VM [VM instance
> {"id":17,"instanceName":"i-2-17-VM","state":"Error","type":"User","uuid":"5eec0a30-a0e6-49a4-80d2-ba8aab230ddf"}].
> 2026-10-22 13:22:29,723 DEBUG [c.c.d.DeploymentPlanningManagerImpl]
> (API-Job-Executor-82:[ctx-ba6e2ef7, job-144, ctx-5ad14635]) (logid:64143c60)
> Adding pods [[]], clusters [[]] and hosts [[]] to the avoid list in the
> deploy process of user VM [error decoding VM instance
> {"id":17,"instanceName":"i-2-17-VM","state":"Error","type":"User","uuid":"5eec0a30-a0e6-49a4-80d2-ba8aab230ddf"}],
> because this VM is not explicitly dedicated to these components.
> 2026-10-22 13:22:29,723 DEBUG [c.c.d.DeploymentPlanningManagerImpl]
> (API-Job-Executor-82:[ctx-ba6e2ef7, job-144, ctx-5ad14635]) (logid:64143c60)
> Trying to allocate a host and storage pools from datacenter [Zone {"id": "2",
> "name": "testberg", "uuid": "31b0d190-f52c-44f9-9733-40e6e4d3a270"}], pod
> [null], cluster [null], to deploy VM [VM instance
> {"id":17,"instanceName":"i-2-17-VM","state":"Error","type":"User","uuid":"5eec0a30-a0e6-49a4-80d2-ba8aab230ddf"}]
> with requested CPU [99200] and requested RAM [(16.00 GB) 17179869184].
> 2026-10-22 13:22:29,723 DEBUG [c.c.d.DeploymentPlanningManagerImpl]
> (API-Job-Executor-82:[ctx-ba6e2ef7, job-144, ctx-5ad14635]) (logid:64143c60)
> ROOT volume [null] is not ready to deploy VM [VM instance
> {"id":17,"instanceName":"i-2-17-VM","state":"Error","type":"User","uuid":"5eec0a30-a0e6-49a4-80d2-ba8aab230ddf"}].
> 2026-10-22 13:22:29,727 DEBUG [c.c.d.DeploymentPlanningManagerImpl]
> (API-Job-Executor-82:[ctx-ba6e2ef7, job-144, ctx-5ad14635]) (logid:64143c60)
> DeploymentPlan [DataCenterDeployment] has not specified host. Trying to find
> another destination to deploy VM [VM instance
> {"id":17,"instanceName":"i-2-17-VM","state":"Error","type":"User","uuid":"5eec0a30-a0e6-49a4-80d2-ba8aab230ddf"}],
> avoiding pods [], clusters [] and hosts [].
>
> If I tell it exactly where to place the VM in the UI [there is only one zone,
> one pod, one cluster, and one host] it can create the VM...
>
> When looking at the two Guest Network configurations they are basically the
> same except for the things that have to be unique (IP Addresses, vlan ID,
> etc) and the Network Offering that is associated to each one.
>
> The Network offerings are basically the same as well except for the new one
> has 5000 set for the speed (instead of 200) and DHCP, DNS, and UserData are
> all set to "ConfigDrive".
>
> Thank you for any guidance that anyone can offer.
What helps here, use Claude Code or OpenAI Codex, tell them you are using
Apache CloudStack version XX and throw in the loglines. It will most of the
time exactly tell you what is going wrong.
Wido
> -Drew
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pearl Dsilva <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2026 12:20 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Network offering => Network, question
>
> Hi Drew,
>
> With respect to the issue you're noticing where clone offering silently
> discards changes made to an offering's service list, seems to be a known UI
> issue, and has a fix:
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_cloudstack_pull_14062&d=DwIFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=OPufM5oSy-PFpzfoijO_w76wskMALE1o4LtA3tMGmuw&m=0zXGfDiufAOL6uejZHU0ecbHAZVz5s2n6XnPApFNJlcRfoeBqi0D2XSsySx0MG0W&s=t1dSViNUtWHcwcj1sv6camXYUkCAGVVAaBgC-MYktIg&e=.
> Until this is merged, as a workaround, you may have to create a new offering
> with your desired list of services.
>
> Regards,
> Pearl
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2026 at 11:51 AM Drew Weaver <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've made some progress setting up Cloudstack (thanks everybody that
>> responded to my questions).
>>
>> I noticed on the test VM I spun up that it's using DHCP (without a
>> default
>> gateway) and while it can reach the Internet (public IP addresses)
>> using DHCP isn't desirable for our goals.
>>
>> Also it isn't immediately obvious how the VM is routing to the
>> Internet without a gateway configured in the network settings since
>> there is no NAT of any kind taking place.
>>
>> So I cloned "DefaultSharedNetworkOffering<
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__10.1.225.2-3A8080_client_-23_networkoffering_9fc257f7-2D62cb-2D476a-2Db3e3-2Ddca3451f4eb1&d=DwIFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=OPufM5oSy-PFpzfoijO_w76wskMALE1o4LtA3tMGmuw&m=0zXGfDiufAOL6uejZHU0ecbHAZVz5s2n6XnPApFNJlcRfoeBqi0D2XSsySx0MG0W&s=GQJMYv_F7vrpEQSiuOFS5pxW2FfNxshGhZBgvr73Ktw&e=>"
>> and changed DHCP, DNS, and UserData to "ConfigDrive" from DHCP and
>> then configured "SecurityGroups" as "SecurityGroupProvider".
>>
>> I am guessing that I did something wrong because I noticed when I
>> saved it, it kind of discarded everything I changed and made the new
>> offering like this:
>>
>> Supported services
>> Dhcp : VirtualRouter
>> UserData : VirtualRouter
>> Dns : VirtualRouter
>> SecurityGroup : SecurityGroupProvider
>>
>> Does anyone have any insight into how I can configure this so it
>> doesn't use virtual routers while preventing IP spoofing/nic stepping?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Drew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Pearl Dsilva
