>>> Jan Pokorný <[email protected]> schrieb am 23.07.2019 um 16:49 in Nachricht <[email protected]>: > On 23/07/19 09:07 ‑0500, Ken Gaillot wrote: >> On Tue, 2019‑07‑23 at 08:48 +0200, Ulrich Windl wrote: >>> It's not that I like all the changes systemd requires, but systemd >>> complains about not being able to unmount /var while /var/run or >>> /var/lock is being used... >> >> Agreed, it should be a build‑time option whether to use /run or >> /var/run > > Sounds more like a distro systemic inconsistency, since when /var/run > and /var/lock are just symlinks to /run‑rooted counterparts (is it > your case?), it suggests a hint that /var shall never be unmounted > prior to /run itself (at which point the still surviving daemons will > be in troubles equally and the ordering hence doesn't sit well for > these for some reason ‑‑ I am assuming the only use case here is > a system shutdown). > > I think I'd pay attention to other parts of the system or customized > configuration if you are seeing problems like mentioned above; > feels orthogonal to which access path for the same effective location > resource‑agents project uses. > > /me wonders, was it a deliberate design step from systemd?
Well most machines I have now were upgraded from SLES11 (systemd-free) to SLES12 (systemd). It all depends on the upgrade mechanisms provided: I had upgraded systems from old-style UNIX filesystem layout (Users in /users, no /var at all) to modern layout (/home, /var, etc.), and I've migrated systems from 32bit to 64 bit without reinstalling. Unfortunately today most software vendors don't really support upgrades; they all recommend a fresh installation, leaving the task of re-customizing to the user. That means: I had to migrate a separate /usr filesystem that we always had into / myself (SLES12 does not support a separate /usr any more. I guess some people did not understand what /sbin really meant, or it's just the systemd bloat). Unfortunately there was no migration task for /var/run to /run, and I really haven't understood all systemd magic... Regards, Ulrich > > ‑‑ > Jan (Poki) _______________________________________________ Manage your subscription: https://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users ClusterLabs home: https://www.clusterlabs.org/
