This subject has been discussed before, and the developers are aware of it. The current approach is better than it was, but still far from perfect. *And*, there is a roadmap, that plans to resolve this sort of thing, see:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=BlocksDefinition
We have had to focus on getting 2.1 released before we could start on building this block system, as the block system could potentially involve some significant hacking at the core code. Now, 2.1 has been released, and you can expect the necessary work on blocks to start soon.
So, whilst I do (I think) understand the frustration you all experience, please remember that Cocoon is still (and hopefully will always stay) a work in progress. With patience, I think you'll get the system you want.
The thing to remember is that Cocoon is not like a commercial product, where complaints to the developers can get resolution because you've paid your fees. Cocoon is built by a network of volunteers, and where development happens when those developers have time and interest to implement improvements. If there is an improvement that the developers aren't undertaking yet, suggest it, then you can either wait, or even better, get on and do it yourself. You'll find that, if a suggestion has had sufficient discussion first, patches will be willingly accepted. This is how the developer community works - as a collection of free individuals.
Hope this helps.
Regards, Upayavira
Ralph Goers wrote:
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From: Sam Chance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 11:50 PM
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Subject: RE: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Released - binary??
Maybe my angst is really unfounded and I just want a binary because I "feel"
like I have the "whole" application. However, as you said, Cocoon is a
framework, and not just a single application. Maybe what I'm really wanting
is a clear definition of just what Cocoon is and what the optional
components ("blocks"?) are. I suppose all that is documented and we
(collectively) have read the docs! Bumber! :-)
Unfortunately, Cocoon, as shipped is NOT a framework but a fully functioning application that I am supposed to insert my stuff into. What I want is a framework.
Ralph
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