Dear All , I am using Echo for the persentation . I think Cocoon is so powerful but seem can't make a "Server-side component" , hence can't have a reuseable "component" for different project . However , I think the "file output function" of Cocoon is the best ! Any suggestions ? Thank you !
--- Marc Portier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > For one thing, JSP (with Struts) is limited in > scope to devices that > > support JSP pages (ie browsers). While JSP is > slowly moving to other > > technologies/devices, Cocoon has already been > structured to support > > virtually any type of device. That's what the XML > buys you...create your > > view once in XML and send it to any type of device > for interpretation > > by/for that device. > > > > yep. > > Mind also that you shouldn't compare JSP with XSLT > in that respect. > > JSP is mainly a templating language (meaning you > shouldn't use the > scripting logic features in there to conduct > business logic processing) > While XSLT is an XML transformation language. (For > that job it is > designed and well equiped) > > Inside Cocoon are a number of template languages > that more nicely blend > with the XML thinking (JXTemplate or the older XSP > technology come to > mind) and which should be the counterparts of your > comparisson to JSP. > > However, in Cocoon the 'view-template' is just one > part of the equation, > there is also often the multi-channel publishing > issue. As Robert says, > sometimes you want to yield from one template a > multitude of different > output formats (possibly for multiple devices) and > maybe even want those > aggregated/included in different ways. > > If you know the Martin Fowler Enterprise > Architecture patterns [1], I'ld > say the Cocoon pipelines offer a very flexibile way > to nicely mixing all > of the TEMPLATE_VIEW, TRANSFORMER_VIEW and > TWO_STEP_VIEW patterns, > allowing you to use, combine and maximize all of > their benefits for your > set-up. > > > And last but not least, stepping away of only the > 'view' issue: for more > complex interaction sites you can benefit from the > Cocoon Forms > (comparable to JSP) and Cocoon FlowScript (quite > unique IMHO). > > > Concluing: There is no simple unique > one-size-fits-all Truth, but rather > some negotiation towards the framework that best > fits your needs. > > From your message I get that JSP is enough for your > current needs, so > why bother? The good news is that Cocoon will not > turn it's back on > you. If your needs grow over time and the Cocoon > feature mix starts > showing its benefits, then we provide enough JSP > minded components to > ease the transition... > > HTH > -marc= > [1] http://martinfowler.com/eaaCatalog/ > > > HTH > > Bob > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 8:34 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Coccon vs. JSP > > > > > > Hello!! > > > > I am learning a lot about Cocoon, but I can't see > yet the > > advantages of > > Cocoon versus technologies like JSP. I think that > working with XSL is > > much > > more difficult than working with JSP, as XSL is > limited in > > variables,etc. > > What are the benefits of using Cocoon? (No doubt > that you will > > change my > > mind ;). > > > > Alejandro > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > Marc Portier > http://outerthought.org/ > Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence > Support Center > Read my weblog at > http://blogs.cocoondev.org/mpo/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ===== Jonathan (Wong Yat Sing) Jonathan Studio M.P (852) - 91235947 NetMeeting : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 57646152 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
