I have no clue. Is there no application server which can deal with time stamped libraries? The
way dynamic generation in xsp works (not the implementation of which I know next to nothing,
but the fact that your classes are always up to date) is a very strong convenience feature.


If that could be extended to the application jar's (e.g. cocoon/WB-INF/lib, not tomcat/libs) in the
way the sitemap has a check-reload that would make it so much easier to develop web applications,
especially since development seems to shift away from xsp to flowscript, with the flowscript
acting as a controller and not containing the business logic.


Leon

Ralph Goers wrote:

What presentation framework allows you to replace a jar without redeploying?

Ralph

-----Original Message-----
From: Leon Widdershoven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 3:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Business Objects vs Data Objects [was Re: JXTemplates-what' s
in a name?]


Compared to a full distributed application container it probably is "just".
In comparison with anything else it isn't.
And restarting your cocoon when adding a jar (cause you updated a feature, removed
a bug, or added an application) will also not make larger sites very happy.


Leon

Ralph Goers wrote:



Antonio,

People who say Cocoon is "just" a web publishing framework are nuts. We


use


very little flowscript and find it to be a very powerful presentation
framework. I saw a comparison of various frameworks a while ago and Cocoon
easily came out on top except that it had no built in support for Business
Delegates. I spent some time and implemented that myself and Cocoon is
working great so far.

Ralph

-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Business Objects vs Data Objects [was Re: JXTemplates-what' s
in a name?]
BEAWARE: I am far to be a guru in this area.


Currently, I found myself asking about the "viability" of using EJB for
the overall task in some applications. Recently, Ralph's posts, triggered
in my mind the idea of how will be the best approach to use J2EE (that
include EJB) with Cocoon. I read some articles about that too. And there
are diferent approach. Some articles tell you that Cocoon need to be used
just as a publishing framework while using J2EE. But I think: This was
before flow. But, now we have Flow and I don't like the idea of stripdown
Cocoon wings when I know how much it can do and help.... Of course this is
a very large discussion and a interesting one.



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