Re: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?

[oliver charlet]

Hi Ben, at your evaluation, did you also take a look at the workflow patterns from van der Aalst? He too did some surveys about workflow specifications and it seems, that a lot are not really sufficiant, to solve all modelling problems. Resulting are implementations, that do only part of what is needed. He also uses PetriNet models to compare the (xml based) spexes. Some implementations obviously are aware of that and use Petrinets at their core, rather than inventing something new (Bossa, jBPM). Did you consider this in your search, or do you think that's overdone? :olli Ben Anderson schrieb: we've actually been evaluating open source workflow engines. I focused on osworkflow for a while and was rather indifferent about it and have now (just the last day) started investigating enhydra shark. So far, it seems to be the best, but I haven't played with it too much yet. -Ben On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:13:52 +0100, oliver charlet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Markus, it is a late answer, but if you did not yet make up your mind about an BPM Tool - this is a very serious desicion to do - , go to http://www.jbpm.org and check the extensive sources about the subject. Although the site is about one solution, that is more and more mentioned as to be the most promissing, I suggest, that you follow some of the discussions you can find there under http://www.jbpm.org/state.of.workflow.html. Check the links at the end of this article to get more opinions. For me the most important conclusion is, that it is important to understand, that there is *NO* standard BPM language at the moment. Most of the existing (XML) languages are not really sufficiant enough to be a real standard. good look, :olli Markus Heussen schrieb: Hi! Can anybody point me to Open Source BPM Systems using comfortable user (web-) interfaces to design business processes in standard BPL. In a new project starting next week we need such a tool to define our business processes consisting off several Web Service calls. One tool I found is Twister. For informations about it look at http://www.smartcomps.org/twister/. Does anybody have experiences in BPMS and can link me to free alternatives. Maybe there exists a Cocoon based BPM System? Last we would prefer because we started using Cocoon about 2 years ago. Thanks for any hint! Markus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]