Hi Jorg,
On 28 Mar 2005, at 12:51, Jorg Heymans wrote:
Mark Leicester wrote:
I set up the site to scratch my own itch, and I certainly don't want to cross swords with other people's efforts. Having said that, I believe the site may have something to offer other Cocoon users in due course. Naturally, I welcome any feedback!
random (first) thoughts :
Which "ich" exactly was it that triggered you to do this? I mean I can't (yet) see the value planetcocoon adds to the cocoon community, apart from a more colorful mailinglist :-)
The mailing list is simply the first feature I implemented. PlanetCocoon is a Drupal site (http://drupal.org). I'm a Drupal contributor and wanted to get my feet wet with a simple patch to their mailhandler module (the colourisation).
The real "itch" is this. In due course I want to provide myself, my colleagues - and any other interested contributors - with a site that offers a wide range of means to communicate. People are different and I like the idea of offering blogs, forums, pages, code snippets, recipes, polls and collaborative books under one roof. I want to aggregate other Cocoon developer's blogs. I want taxonomy and folksonomy. I want integration with del.icio.us (and flickr!?). All of these things are already offered by Drupal (http://drupal.org).
BTW I mentioned in the earlier post (see http://www.planetcocoon.com/node/1109 :p) that I want to introduce folksonomy to mailing list archives. My intention is to make mailing list material taggable. I think this will increase the value of archived mailing list content.
Are posts on planetcocoon relayed back to the mailinglist?
No, not at this stage. PlanetCocoon offers XML feeds for anyone wanting to keep tabs on new content. A mailing list might be the best way to broadcast a message to the community, but I don't get time to read all my messages. For me, I've found XML feeds allow me to be more selective, and aggregators make reading much faster and easier.
Don't get me wrong here - i welcome any attempt to make cocoon and it's docs better and more accessible - but isn't this just another hollow shell sitting on top of a mailinglist that is potentially confusing users looking for the Real Cocoon Docs(tm)?
Indeed, the strapline is "Confusing Apache Cocoon developers with yet another source of documentation."
I understand what you're saying. I've been in the Cocoon community for five years, and I don't like the many and varied sources of information either. I have very mixed feelings about adding another source, but I feel compelled to by the non-existence of a really modern Cocoon community site. Also, I rate Drupal quite highly and want to show it off! :)
Maybe it would be better to remove the page title "Apache Cocoon Documentation... reloaded" until the docs actually have been "reloaded".
Quite. We're weeks away from any kind of launch. Detective Stavros forced my hand a little ;)
Incidentally, am I alone in having mixed experiences googling for cocoon documentation? For example, if I type "cforms" into Google, what comes back? The first entry is the official Apache documentation: good. After that comes PlanetCocoon. The Cocoon wiki is many entries hence. Content from the Cocoon wiki seems to have fairly low search engine visibility. Does anyone know why this is? No one is linking to PlanetCocoon yet, but already Google seems to think PlanetCocoon has something of value. Google gets it wrong, but who can argue? If a tree falls in the woods...
Thanks for your feedback! Mark
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