On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Elad Messing wrote:
> Hello again, stavros
> Another question in relation to the new Othello example.
>
> I can see that you divided all of the content in localelized
> directories (c_en and c_el).
> Then, in the pipe line you use the locale to build the path for the
> content, and right after it you translate this locale specific content xhtml
> file :
>
> <map:match pattern="xml/*.*">
> <map:generate src="c_{../locale}/{1}.{2}"/>
> <map:transform type="i18n">
> <map:parameter name="locale" value="{../locale}"/>
> </map:transform>
>
>
> Now - I was wondering why :
> 1. You divide the content to localized sub directories. Isn't one
> "xhtml" file, with translation tags enough ? Do you expect that the layout
> will change because of different locale ?
> 2. If you already did divide between the directories, why did you use
> the translator transformer ? I mean - each file is already declared as part
> of a specific locale, so why not just have the text embedded ?
>
> I hope I do not ask dumb questions :)
>
> Elad
hi elad
first of all i have to say that Othello is not in production-ready product
rather some code snips and ideas. so you are welcome to contribute your
ideas :-)
now the answers
2.
the only reason that localized directories and i18n transformer exist in
the same match pattern is because some times i have the same content file
(with i18n tags) copied in all _locale_ directories
1.
when the amount of translations is not so big then i use i18n, but when i
have to do with whole pages i use different files
-stavros
>
>
>
> -----UrsprΓΌngliche Nachricht-----
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> Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. April 2005 14:20
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: Design note - Building a template mechanism
>
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Elad Messing wrote:
>
> > Hi again.
> > I have added the fixes. I am not sure that they are all correct, as I
> > am quite a newbie.. They do however make it work :)
> > Feel free to remove what is not needed.
> >
> > Hope it will help somebody someday - like it helped me..
> >
> > Elad
>
> thnx
>
> i'll post the link for the demo site in this thread afternoon
>
>
>
> --stavros
>
> >
> >
> > -----UrsprΞ?Ξ?ngliche Nachricht-----
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> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. April 2005 13:26
> > An: [email protected]
> > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Design note - Building a template mechanism
> >
> > On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Elad Messing wrote:
> >
> > > I understand.
> > > So - I would very much like to learn the new implementation ! A demo site
> > > could be great !
> > >
> > > In Parallel - I am going through the example in the wiki and finding some
> > > errors in code. What do you think about me adding the fixes to make the
> > > example work by copy paste ? Is it needed ?
> > >
> > > Elad
> > >
> >
> >
> > your comments/fixes are welcome
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
> > > -----UrsprΞ?β??Ξ?Β?ngliche Nachricht-----
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> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. April 2005 12:22
> > > An: [email protected]
> > > Betreff: Re: AW: Design note - Building a template mechanism
> > >
> > > On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Elad Messing wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Stavros and all
> > > > Thanks for the reply. I think I understand the usage of it as
> > > > you
> > > > explained in the "TemplateBasedWebSite" wiki page.
> > > > I also found the Othello example in the Scratchpad.
> > > >
> > > > Currently I am studying the wiki example, trying to build the
> > > > same
> > > > in my environment.
> > > >
> > > > Do you think the wiki example is still valid today, or you
> > > > would
> > > > have done this in a different way in Cocoon 2.1.7 ? This is actually
> > > > my question :)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Elad
> > > >
> > >
> > > the idea described in wiki is the same, the impementation has changed
> > >
> > > (more features, cleaner code etc)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----UrsprΞ?Β?Ξ?Β?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. April 2005 11:38
> > > > An: [email protected]
> > > > Betreff: Re: Design note - Building a template mechanism
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hi elad
> > > >
> > > > i'm using this approach to create static web static web sites the goals
> > > > are:
> > > > - yu have one layout file (.xhtml). then i get the content form
> > > > each request (requested web page) and put it inside this layout (now
> > > > i'm close to have pages (web requests) that make an exception and
> > > > use an alternative
> > > > layout)
> > > >
> > > > - you can define blocks with static content (html fragments) that
> > > > can be reused in any page
> > > >
> > > > - you can define your own elements that are translated to complex
> > > > html
> > > >
> > > > - there is a simple html 2 pdf transformation, so you are able to
> > > > server content pages as simple pdfs
> > > >
> > > > - you can change the theme for your site
> > > >
> > > > all this out of the box without to touch the sitemap.xmap
> > > >
> > > > there is a sample in cocoon sample /scratchpad called Othello than
> > > > demostrate all this but it's quite old
> > > >
> > > > i have a new version with many modification but i dont have found
> > > > time to make a pacth in bugzilla
> > > >
> > > > if you want i can pack my working directory with some demo site to
> > > > take a look
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > > -stavros
> > > > On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Elad Messing wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello All !
> > > > > I am now in the design phase of the web-application I am
> > > > > working on.
> > > > > The application will have a fixed structure - header, footer,
> > > > > content in the middle, and menu on the side - and I am looking for
> > > > > the
> > > > best
> > > > > practice to build this template mechanism in Cocoon.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have found in the wiki this page
> > > > > :http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/TemplateBasedWebSite but - It is
> > > > > from
> > > > 10.2003
> > > > > - and mention working with version 2.0.4.
> > > > > I was wondering whether this is still a best practice or maybe
> > > > > a
> > > > > new better feature allows for another practice - which is better.
> > > > > (might be
> > > > that
> > > > > the Xinclude is involved ? Not sure)..
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Elad Messing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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