Hi Ard, 

        Here is a sitemap.xmap sample of what I am using in the application. 

Thanks again for your time

On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 16:09 +0200, Ard Schrijvers wrote:
> By default the locale in i18n is added to the cachekey. 
> 
> When you have your sitemap (snippet) ready I can take a look, 
> 
> Regards Ard
> > 
> > Hello again,
> > 
> >     I am looking deeper into my sitemap.xmap configuration 
> > and I can't
> > figure out what is going on. I will trying looking into the caching
> > details and the cocoon internals. The locale value might not 
> > even be in
> > the Apache Cocoon context parameters. 
> >     I will try to print it tnin the XSL stylesheet to check 
> > if the locale
> > value is present in the Apache Cocoon context.  
> >     I will send you ca copy of my sitemap.xmap as soon as I 
> > am done with
> > some modifications. 
> > 
> > Thanks again. 
> > 
> > On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 09:27 +0200, Ard Schrijvers wrote:
> > > > Hi Ard,
> > > > 
> > > >    I remove the <use-request-parameters> instructions 
> > > > everywhere and it is
> > > > still not working.
> > > 
> > > It wasn't a solution to your problem, but merely a general 
> > warning for everybody :-) 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > With the status generator, I can see what Cocoon is holding 
> > > > in the Cache,
> > > > but It doesn't seem to hold any key like locale.
> > > 
> > > Well, there is then the problem
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Here is what I tried : 
> > > > - I added a virtual parameter called "foo" which contained the
> > > > localization parameters 
> > > > <map:parameter name = "foo" value = "{../locale}"/>
> > > 
> > > if {../locale} contains a value it should be visible in cachekey
> > > 
> > > > - I tried adding a virtual parameter called locale in the 
> > > > XSLT transformer
> > > > where I don't use it
> > > > <map:transform src = "stylesheet.xsl">
> > > >   <map:parameter name = "foo" value = "{../locale}"/> 
> > > > </map:transform>
> > > 
> > > Should also be visible in cachekey
> > > 
> > > > - I tried modifying the pipeline parameters to introduce 
> > a parameter
> > > > called cache-key
> > > > <map:pipeline type = "caching">
> > > >  <map:parameter name = "cache-key" value = 
> > "{session:attr-locale}"/>
> > > 
> > > no, this only works for expiring pipelines in this way. 
> > Does {session:attr-locale} contain the locale?
> > > 
> > > >  ...
> > > > </map:pipeline>
> > > > 
> > > > None of those solutions seem to work. I am thinking about 
> > switching to
> > > > something else but with all the work I have done with Cocoon, 
> > > > I don't want
> > > > to do it.
> > > 
> > > I wouldn't want that either. Do you mind sending me 
> > (a.schrijvers at hippo.nl) your sitemap? I will take a look 
> > and help you out.
> > > 
> > > Regards Ard
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > What I suspect is that Cocoon is caching everything from the 
> > > > instruction
> > > > map:act : 
> > > > <map:pipeline>
> > > >  <map:act type = "locale">
> > > >    <map:match pattern = "index.xml"/>
> > > >    <map:generate src = "index.xsl"/>
> > > >    <map:transform type = "i18n">
> > > >     <map:parameter name = "locale" value = "{../locale}"/>
> > > >    </map:transform>
> > > >  </map:act>
> > > > </map:pipeline>
> > > > 
> > > > So I think that when I request a page, Cocoon just take the 
> > > > content in the
> > > > cache without thinking of the locale attribute in the i18n 
> > > > transformer. So
> > > > the locale is not the cachekey and is never defined 
> > explicitly in the
> > > > cache(StatusGenerator).
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks again for your help.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: "Ard Schrijvers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 12:07:56 +0200
> > > > Subject: RE: Localization and caching
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks a lot Ard!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am using the locale action at before any "map:match". I am 
> > > > > > passing the
> > > > > > locale as parameter but not using it in the XSL stylesheets.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > exemple:
> > > > > > <map:act type = "locale">
> > > > > >   <map:match pattern = "index.html">
> > > > > >     <map:generate src = "index.xml"/>
> > > > > >     <map:transform src = "index.xsl"/>
> > > > > >     <map:transform type = "i18n">
> > > > > >       <map:parameter name = "locale" value = "{../locale}"/>
> > > > > >     </map:transform>
> > > > > >     <map:serialize type = "xhtml"/>
> > > > > >   </map:match>
> > > > > > </map:act>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In the XSL stylesheet i transform the keys as : 
> > > > > > <i18n:text>exemple.author.name</i18n:text>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In the xslt transformer configuration I specified the 
> > parameters
> > > > > > <use-request-parameters>true</use-request-parameters>
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is off topic, but I strongly recommend to set this to 
> > > > FALSE, and
> > > > > declare all your used parameters with 
> > map:parameters...When crawlers
> > > > > come by, they tend to have arbitrary parameters in the 
> > url, implying
> > > > > with your configuration 2 things:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1) Since all request parameters are taken in the cache 
> > key (because
> > > > > <use-request-parameters>true</use-request-parameters>), 
> > then when a
> > > > > request with arbitrary request parameter will never match a 
> > > > cachekey,
> > > > > having to generate your pipeline again
> > > > > 2) Your cache gets stuffed up with nonsense cachekeys 
> > with arbitrary
> > > > > values because of crawlers  
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The localeAction for cocoon 2.x is an action which 
> > > > injects the locale
> > > > > > parameters from the session, the request or the 
> > > > > > cookie(according to the
> > > > > > action configuration) if I'm right...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The locale selection is managed through some javascript and 
> > > > > > everything is
> > > > > > working well when I'm not using a pipeline which type is 
> > > > "caching".
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am not sure I'm doing anything the wrong way. Thanks for 
> > > > > > your response.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Can you do something for me? Clear your entire cache, use
> > > > > <use-request-parameters>false</use-request-parameters>, and do
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1) request with certain locale ---> generate the status
> > > > > (StatusGenerator, you know to find it?) and look in the 
> > > > EHDefaultStore
> > > > > part at the created cache key. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 2) Do request with different locale --> look again at 
> > created cache
> > > > > key. Did it override the previous one, or do you now have a 
> > > > new one?? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > This should give you a clue about what is missing in the 
> > > > cachekey. That
> > > > > of course does not solve the problem, but can help you 
> > debug this
> > > > > problem (I am also not familiar with map:act 
> > type="locale", so sorry
> > > > > for not having direct answer). 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ard
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Anybody there!
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hi everybody,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >     We are writing a dynamic website with cocoon 
> > and with are 
> > > > > > > > confronted 
> > > > > > > > to some problems.
> > > > > > > > We would like all the pages to be cached at startup for 
> > > > > > all possible 
> > > > > > > > specified languages.  When the user change the locale, it 
> > > > > > should be 
> > > > > > > > reflected in all the application's pages.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hmmm, you are caching every possible page at startup?? With 
> > > > > > a crawler
> > > > > > > or something? Or you mean only the homepages? Or all? 
> > > > How do you do
> > > > > > > all? And what if content changes? Do you have to re-cache 
> > > > > > everything?
> > > > > > > It looks like you are working like the "forrest" guys. 
> > > > > > Cocoon has many
> > > > > > > smart caching mechanism, like eventAware that make running 
> > > > > > live without
> > > > > > > warming up the caches is very well possbile
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >     However the cache doesn't seem to be updated when the 
> > > > > > > > locale change. 
> > > > > > > > The same page is often returned and sometimes a 
> > page with the 
> > > > > > > > previous 
> > > > > > > > language settings.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Were are using Cocoon 2.1.9 and the localeAction with 
> > > > 3 languages
> > > > > > > > (Spanish, English and trench). We were looking at the 
> > > > > > > > CacheEventAction 
> > > > > > > > but it doesn't seem to be the way to go.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I am not aware of waht the localeAction does. But I can 
> > > > > > imagine it is
> > > > > > > at the end of your pipeline, right? And the 
> > > > localeAction does not
> > > > > > > implement CacheableProcessingComponent interface. So, 
> > > > now, I have
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > quess what your problem is, but I have a clue:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You do some generation part, then some xsl transforms, 
> > > > and then a
> > > > > > > localeAction..(hope i got it right)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > And probably, the generation part and the xsl part is 
> > > > > > locale dependent.
> > > > > > > But, you dont use the locale in there (as a 
> > parameter). So, this
> > > > > > > implies, your cache is built up until the first not 
> > cacheable
> > > > > > > component...(I suppose, but am not sure, and have to sort 
> > > > > > it out if it
> > > > > > > remains a problem, that this also holds for map:actions and
> > > > > > > map:selectors and stuff)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Anyway, so your cache is build with a generation part 
> > > > and some xsl
> > > > > > > transformer, where the locale is not in it. Now, changing 
> > > > > > your locale
> > > > > > > will return the very same cache...solution: do the xsl 
> > > > > > transformation
> > > > > > > with an extra map:parameter, with name="foo" and value 
> > > > equal to the
> > > > > > > locale. You dont have to use this parameter in your xsl. It 
> > > > > > only makes
> > > > > > > sure, your cache key contains the locale (look in 
> > > > > > StatusGenerator for
> > > > > > > generated keys: probably, you dont see the locale in it)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hope this helps you out,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Regards Ard
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >     If someone could help, it would be great. We 
> > are kind of 
> > > > > > > > stuck with 
> > > > > > > > Cocoon as it is considered as a show stopper for 
> > the project.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > > > > 
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