Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
How can we help our upcoming 2.2 users? IMO there are two approaches which should be followed in parallel:

 1) make the usage of Maven 2 as simple as possible
    - the tutorials take this into account
    - we provide different archetypes

 2) offer an alternative to Maven 2

Option one is clear and is nearly finsihed. My question is regarding to option 2: What do you expect, when you download Cocoon 2.2 in order to get your new Cocoon 2.2 project started?

Keep in mind that Cocoon 2.2 is split into a core and several blocks (template, forms, etc.). All of them are separate release artifacts and in contrast to Cocoon 2.1 they can and will be shipped as binaries again. (Note that I'm not talking about samples, that's something different.)

Just some unstructured thoughts:

What about creating a zip containing the result of the cocoon archetype run? People could use this as a starting point for own projects without maven.

I guess that you mean the result in ./target/webapp which is created by "mvn install", don't you?

Adding blocks should then just be adding the jar which is available for download.

yep

The final step would be a document how to build your own block without maven, perhaps someone could come up with an ant script doing this stuff.

good idea, shouldn't be that difficult.

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