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Lenya 1.4 is using Cocoon 2.1.x.  Lenya 1.4 is long overdue; let it be
released with Cocoon 2.1.

Working against development versions of dependencies is insane.  The
Lenya project has had problems because the devs keep upgrading to the
latest versions of dependencies.  We cannot know if something broke
because of a commit to Lenya or an upgrade to a dependency.

I agree with you that depending on snapshots is usually really bad idea. In Cocoon we have policy that released version cannot depend on unreleased artifacts, see: http://reflectingonthevicissitudes.wordpress.com/2007/06/06/cocoon-22-rc1-release-delayed/

I push to choose a certain release of each dependency when a new
version is started, then do not upgrade any dependencies unless a
specific feature in a dependency is necessary for the project.  I have
a branch that I paused last year; I will upgrade the dependencies to
the latest gold versions when I return to the work (probably August or
September) and then not change any until after a release.  That will
likely include Cocoon 2.1.10.  Cocoon 2.2 is not even mentioned on the
Cocoon home page.

It's wise to stick to Cocoon 2.1.x for a Lenya 1.4 because it's near a release date. Cocoon 2.2 brings a lot of new functionality but upgrading will demand some non-trivial adjustments so it makes sense to upgrade for next Lenya version.

When it comes to mentioning Cocoon 2.2 on Cocoon's home page you must know that refreshed site is prepared that uses completely new design and publishing mechanisms. Thus old site is untended. Official Cocoon 2.2 release is almost here: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.text.xml.cocoon.devel/73899 (Reinhard is little busy so we may need to wait a few more days to have an official announce)

Java 1.6 has several standard features that will make Cocoon much
simpler (like the compiler API.) Cocoon releases twice each year.
Does the Cocoon project upgrade the dependencies while developing a
release?  Is Java 1.6 even being considered?  (I hope not because I
need Cocoon to run with Java 1.4 for two projects.)

There was debate on development list about Cocoon's 2.2 compatibility with Java 1.4. Even though, that many developers (including me) wanted to make Cocoon 2.2 compatible with Java 1.5+ we could not agree and as for now Cocoon 2.2 is supposed to work with Java 1.4.

Can you explain how you see Java's compiler API making Cocoon much simpler? 
It's not so obvious for me.

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Grzegorz Kossakowski
http://reflectingonthevicissitudes.wordpress.com/

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