Joerg Heinicke wrote:
On 18.11.2007 18:53 Uhr, Mansour wrote:

For now, maven is not the right choice for me. I need to understand
every single file before I use it in my projects. If something goes
wrong, I want to find out why and immediately. I need to know how I can
utilize it in my work.

I don't want to scare you but I wonder if that will be ever possible with Maven. To be honest, I have not used Maven often enough to be able to criticize it in a qualified way. But that's my impression so far.

I have been looking into Cocoon 2.2 and I am getting ready to build another HelloWorld from zero using Cocoon 2.2. However, I find very few jars there. Is this again one of maven's trick to make things easier? Does it download a different set of jars that are only for this template?

Yes, that's how Maven works. You only declare dependencies in your POM and Maven does the rest for you.
Cool. Now I have a better understanding not for maven build but for what Cocoon team are trying to do. Basically, you are trying to get the user to create a "block that uses Cocoon" and deploy it to a Cocoon deployment. So in other word you are making Cocoon a platform. The block that I created is not a Cocoon application but an application that runs under Cocoon's deployment. If this is true, then how can I create from scratch a stand alone Cocoon application ? As I said, I need to drop the war in tomcat/webapp and DONE.

I understand the role of a root sitemap and subsite. But I need my subsite to run as a site. I figured this out with Cocoon 2.1 but the maven thing in C2.2 is not allowing me to see what is going on. I think I will continue digging in sometime today.


Can I use these jars in another way, like importing them directly into my app?

Yes, of course. Maven is about dependency management in the first place. It downloads the jars into a repository, you can grab them from there. As answer to the blog Grek linked [1] I already gave my concerns regarding Maven [2].

Joerg

[1] http://danilogurovich.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/struts-vs-cocoon-why-cocoon-lost-the-battle/ [2] http://danilogurovich.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/struts-vs-cocoon-why-cocoon-lost-the-battle/#comment-688

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