Dear Oleg,

The reason I decided not to use chiba is the exact reason you mention.
Altho I did get the demo working, and I found the chibacookbook. In
the past there was a project called chicoon integrating Chiba with
cocoon. But that was a long time ago with older versions.

I did play with the Orbeon form builder, my first impression was that
it was very promising. But because XFORMS aren't widely accepted yet I
saw no need in using them while there was a perfectly good form
solution within cocoon.

So the question you should probably be asking yourself is do I want
cocoon, or just a form utility?


Regards,

Job

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Konovalov, Oleg
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Job,
>
> I was able to get a fair amount of info on Orbeon,
> but on Chiba - it's almost nothing: most links are broken (demo, etc.),
> I can't gather much at all. Could you recommend a good source of info?
>
> Have you tried Orbeon Form Builder ?  What's your impression ?
>
> Have you tried Lotus Forms ?
>
> Thank you,
> Oleg.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Job van Ommen [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Cocoon Forms builder
>
> If you are looking for XForm tools you should check out orbeon and chiba. 
> They are both pretty decent.
>
> Regards,
>
> Job
>
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Konovalov, Oleg <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Derek,
>>
>> When you say that all layout is done by stylesheets, do you mean XSL or CSS ?
>> If so, how do I build the stylesheet graphically [more in Design mode]?
>> My users will not be programmers,
>> so I would like to avoid exposing them to some heavy coding.
>>
>> Also, I've heard of Xforms, but that it's not supported by IE6&7 (is
>> it true?)
>>
>> Could anyone compare CForms and XForms ?
>> Any tools for them ?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Oleg.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Derek Hohls [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:17 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Cocoon Forms builder
>>
>> Oleg
>>
>> I am not quite sure why you want to build a form graphically - given that 
>> all the layout is done by stylesheets?  The forms essentially only contain 
>> the field definition and any logic required to validate or alter/display 
>> their values. FWIW, I have a small Python program that creates basic forms 
>> (and the logic my app uses to manipulate them) from an SQL statement.
>>
>> Derek
>>
>>>>> On 2009/02/19 at 11:59, in message 
>>>>> <[email protected]>, 
>>>>> "Konovalov, Oleg " <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Are you aware of any tool which allows to build CForms graphically, similar 
>> to how many Eclipse plugins ?
>> We have a limited set of XML fields, need to create (or find) a tool to 
>> build forms through the GUI for non-programmers.
>> If not, how would you build such a tool, any building blocks ?
>> Any help is very appreciated.
>> TIA,
>> Oleg Konovalov
>> Email: [email protected]
>>
>>
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