Hi Ralph,

I would like to give a slightly different view :

As a server for XML requests coming from the Ajax UI implementation ( and 
probably serving the web pages ) Cocoon _is_ the recommended way to serve a 
state-of-the-art UI !

Greetings

Andreas



----- Original Message ----
From: Ralph Goers <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 4:24:24 PM
Subject: Re: Use Case for Cocoon with JSF?

Before you undertake this it would be wise to understand your use case better. 
Earlier this year we did some benchmarking by creating some portlets using JSF 
and IceFaces and determined that they would not even come close to scaling to 
our requirements. The same use cases reimplemented using Spring MVC and JQuery 
or GWT had no problem scaling.   If your use cases are heavy-weight 
applications with multi-page flows then JSF would still make sense, especially 
if your load isn't all that high.

As for using Cocoon for the UI, given the state of UI technologies I don't 
think I'd recommend Cocoon for that any more. However, for manipulating 
XML-based content it is still a great way to go. For example, converting 
content in a CMS from XML to HTML, PDFs, etc.

Ralph

On Dec 17, 2009, at 6:34 AM, Wendy Bossons wrote:

> I take it no one can come up with a use case for Cocoon with JSF. . . so I 
> will consider my rewrite as a new JSF application, without Cocoon. That seems 
> to make the most sense.
> 
> 
> 
> ..\Wendy
> 
> 
> Wendy Bossons
> Web Developer
> 
> Contact Information:
> [email protected]
> 617-253-0770
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 14, 2009, at 11:11 AM, Wendy Bossons wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am new to Cocoon . . . however, the project on which I'm now working is 
>> Cocoon based and has a significant code base . . . I would like to create a 
>> JSF frontend to this application, have been given the go ahead to do so.
>> 
>> As I begin, however, I'm finding only older resources on the web regarding 
>> integrating JSF and Cocoon (circa 2004) . . . and in the end, these end up 
>> back in the Cocoon pipeline as XML/XSL transformations. So I'm wondering 
>> what's the use case for integrating the two? My initial hope was to simplify 
>> the user interface and to take advantage of the many features of some 
>> extended JSF framework like IceFaces.
>> 
>> Can someone speak to this idea ... what is the use case(s) for moving to JSF 
>> if it all ends up in an XSL transformation in Cocoon?
>> Wendy Bossons
>> Web Developer
>> 
>> Contact Information:
>> [email protected]
>> 617-253-0770
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 


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