That depends on the context in which you work: experience, environment, 
support.  I like the previous comment about it being a change for the 
developers' benefit.

As someone working on my own with little contact with other developers, I used 
2.1 at a fairly superficial level, without troubling too much about Avalon, 
etc.  Worked fine but adding a block was a pain.  I now have an app working in 
2.2 but I had to deal with several simultaneous learning curves and it took far 
longer than it should have done.

My 2c

Robin 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robby Pelssers 
  To: [email protected] ; Andreas Kuehne 
  Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:12 AM
  Subject: RE: Lowering in amount of users' posts?


  Maybe the learning curve got a bit steeper for Cocoon2.2 but I disagree that 
this is inherent to Cocoon itself.  Cocoon2.2 still allows you to do use the 
sitemap as before and building a complete webapp with optional usage of

  -          Flowscript/jxtemplate

  -          Cocoon forms

  -          Xslt

  -          …

  without ever having to write a single line of Java.

   

  It took me 1 week to completely make the switch from Cocoon2.1.11 to 
Cocoon2.2. And building blocks and wiring them up  (dependencies) in the 
servlet-context.xml is really simple.

   

  The switch to Maven is a generic tendency seen in all open source projects, 
so not only Cocoon…. Who will tell when we all switch to Craddle (and have to 
learn yet another build tool and programming language Groovy).

   

  And the switch from Avalon to Spring was also a complete logical step… it has 
become the de facto standard for doing dependency injection and it comes 
bundled with a lot of usefull integration classes for most frameworks (Castor, 
XStream, Quartz, …) and AOP.   And for the ones who still think the only decent 
JVM language is Java… think twice.   
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_JVM_languages

   

  If you ask me this discussion is more about people resisting change in 
Software development in general because they have to adapt (again) to new 
technologies.

   

  Cheers,

  Robby Pelssers

   

  From: Andreas Kuehne [mailto:[email protected]] 
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:40 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: Lowering in amount of users' posts?

   

  Hi,

  for me it's also true :
  Didn't see any real need to got to 2.2. or beyond ! 2.1 does anything for me, 
huge apps with heavy load as well as quick solutions. 

  To the major problem of cocoon is : It's ready ! No burning needs for new 
functionality, no major tasks on the todo list. Fiddeling with another base 
framework ( spring instead of avalon ) or build tool ( maven vs. ant ) doesn't 
make any user more happy.

  I can do what I need any van even impress competitors with speed and 
performance. Maintainance mode or not, I'm happy with it ! 

  Greetings 

  Andreas

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