Hi all, I think e-mails like the one below are not helpful at all. First of all, even though most of critical aspects of our current situation are reported, some things are barely wrong:
> down the same page you find the next most recent news is a year and a > half old Open your favorite browser at http://cocoon.apache.org/ and read that latest two news are dated July 2nd and March 3rd 2012 > When people ask about C2.x (and the latest released version is 2.2) nobody > wants to talk about it (except others desperate for information about some > aspect of C2); Just browse http://cocoon.markmail.org and judge by yourself whether this is true or not. > There are no books on anything later than 2.1, which is about a decade old. Just point again your favorite browser to http://www.apache.org/dist/cocoon/ and you will see that Cocoon 2.1.11 was released on Jan 14th 2008. > Perhaps 80% of the official documentation is either TBW or skeletal, and the > only people who know the inside of Cocoon well enough to complete it keep > asking others to do that. This is absolutely false for C2.X and only partially true for C3. Beware, I am not stating that the Cocoon status is healthy, new releases with bugfixes and new features are regularly made available and documentation is accurate and complete. I am only trying to look at the Cocoon project for what it is *today*: a project with: * very few active committers * almost no occasional contributors * still a lot of interested people: most because they are running an ancient Cocoon version, few because they've heard of Cocoon only recently In my opinion, a dead project is a project in which no one is interested, and Cocoon is not (yet?) that far. Remembering that Cocoon - like as any other project at ASF - is exclusively made up by volunteer contribution, I'd rather start a [DISCUSS] thread to see what needs to be done and who is available to help instead of such acid and unproductive e-mails. WDYT? Regards. On 08/11/2012 15:10, Mark H. Wood wrote: > I'm not surprised at all. Looking 3cm. down the same page you find > the next most recent news is a year and a half old. When people ask > about C2.x (and the latest released version is 2.2) nobody wants to > talk about it (except others desperate for information about some > aspect of C2); one is told to use C3. C3 has been alpha for perhaps > two years -- there is as yet no beta, let alone a release. There are > no books on anything later than 2.1, which is about a decade old. > Perhaps 80% of the official documentation is either TBW or skeletal, > and the only people who know the inside of Cocoon well enough to > complete it keep asking others to do that. Bugs with patches attached > languish for years. Seemingly everyone using Cocoon is running a > unique local version with scads of patches that are passed around like > ancient lore. > > Why would anyone think Cocoon is dead? -- Francesco Chicchiriccò ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@cocoon.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@cocoon.apache.org
