Justin C. Sherrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: > > I concur with that. If somebody wants to make a nice install/live CD > > with GUI and whatnot, please go ahead! But I think this should not be > > the official DragonFly CD. Our nrelease framework and the installer is > > so flexible, it is very easy to have additional packages and configs > > added for an "advanced GUI CD"
I completely agree with Simon and Matt. > Would it really be a problem to have something more on the CD than what we > have now? It seems to have worked out OK for most mainstream Linux > distributions, especially Knoppix, and for FreeSBIE, PC-BSD, etc. Last time I tried to boot FreeSBIE on my notebook I got a black screen and nothing else. Same with Knoppix. They were completely useless. I've never tried PC-BSD, but I guess it doesn't look much better (given the fact that it uses the same FreeBSD + Xorg base as FreeSBIE). In my opinion, the installation CD for an operating system (especially for an OS that runs perfectly fine without any graphical interface) _must_ work under as many different circumstances as possible. It must work with any graphics card that's not supported by Xorg, it must work with the old 8bit ISA Hercules monochrome card in my printer server (I don't even think it supports graphics mode), it must work without any graphics card at all. When I boot the FreeBSD install CD on a headless machine with serial terminal, sys- install comes up fine and allows me to install the OS (I haven't tried that with DragonFly yet, but I assume it works as well). I also very much love the fact that the DragonFly install image is a lightweight download (less than 100 MB gzipped, and uncompressed it fits on a cheap 256MB USB memory stick), which works as a life FS and installation source at the same time. That's just cool. You don't have to waste time and space downloading things you don't need. You can download just the packages that you really need (which may include Xorg and a graphical desktop if you're so inclined), and it's all quite easy and straight-forward. During the production of JF Lehmann's "BSD Collcetion DVD" I had the opportunity to look at the installation procedures of all the four major BSDs (Free, Net, Open, DF), and guess waht? I like the DF one best. FreeBSD and NetBSD share the second place, and OpenBSD's installation is just horrible. In my opinion the DF installer people are doing an excellent job, and I hope they will continue this way and not listen to those who ask for a GUI just because Knoppix and FreeSBIE have one. My two cents ... Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way.
