2010/9/24 Przemysław Pawełczyk <pp...@o2.pl>: > On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:06:40 +0200 > Tomas Bodzar <tomas.bod...@gmail.com> wrote: > > (...) >> >> Not at all - just because these tools are not in the base >> >> system does not mean they're not easily available just install them >> >> with pkg_radd or pkgin or build them yourself >> >> (cd /usr/pkgsrc/sysutils/mc; bmake install clean clean-depends). >> > >> > Let me show you a real example, I did stuck with no network >> > during installation. DF is new to me. Unix commands like dhclient >> > are not available though paths so I had to find it. The DF tree is >> > different from other systems. >> >> If you will read first before doing something then you will find this >> page http://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/newhandbook/Installation/ where >> is even description how to enable network after install. > > If you read first before doing something then you would find that I > got stuck before installation - I just inserted CD, kick off DF > and... opsys was in memory but it ended up without IP.
So checking in dmesg if LAN interface was detected or reboot to your original OS and http://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/newhandbook/Configuration/ ? > >> DF tree is not so different from that one in OpenBSD. You can read man >> page (which has same name as in OpenBSD) here too >> http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/cgi/web-man?command=hier§ion=ANY > > Thank you. The permeation of BSD flavors is unprecedented, isn't > it? ;-) Mmm I hope that there will not be more and more diferences like in Linux :-) > >> > Using MC I get broader picture of system dir layout and their >> > contents >> > - I get two panes with a lot of information - and I am not coerced >> > to wander thru subdirectories typing cd and ls like idiot (not as >> > bad as I would be getting acquainted with DF bowels but MC is more >> > convenient). >> > >> >> I don't like MC. I prefer simple terminal with tmux(1) and couple of >> commands like ls(1) and similar. If I need explorer-like then I'm >> using xfe. And what? It's my choice. It doesn't need to be same for >> all. MC is not a holly cow of Unix. > > xfe w/o X? I did not say if with or without X ;-) Anyway ls, cp, cat, vi, more and others are still here and in combination with tmux it's superb enough. Of course for me. Can't talk for others. > > (...) >> > I didn't say about packages but about sets: >> > http://ftp.bytemine.net/pub/OpenBSD/4.7/amd64/ >> > >> > What about DF basic system software divided into sets similar to >> > sets found in OpenBSD? >> >> >> And why? Because everything must be as in OpenBSD? Hint: My only OS is >> OpenBSD, but I like a lot of features in Dfly and a way of its >> developers in some areas. > > I thought "because OpenBSD sets were good solution". Period. If DF > takes from other BSDs, why not in this point? Maybe because they can't see point in this or don't have time for this? I really don't know. > > (...) >> And yes, lynx in OpenBSD base install is fine, but they have much more >> developers and money from users so if you want it in Dfly then pay >> someone or do it yourself or more simple - said in OpenBSD way - shut >> up or hack ;-) > > At last! At least one user agreeing with me. :-) > > Sometimes I feel like there was another adage - "use it or ditch it > (and get lost)". Just another rude expression dressed in smiley. It wasn't meant as something rude ;-) It's just fact. Communities are smaller around OpenBSD or Dfly, but I think that much more useful and I can see thanks to my own use that approach in OpenBSD community leads to quality so no problem with that for me. > > Regards > > -- > Przemysław Pawełczyk (P2O2) [pron. Pshemislav Paveltchick] > http://pp.blast.pl, pp...@o2.pl > -- “If you’re good at something, never do it for free.” —The Joker
