On 15/03/2011 1:54 PM, Raj Floyd wrote:
Thanks Ron.

I am specifically interested in CXF framework. Like I understand your point but the only reason I am going into details is that I can understand the Web service better as a product or a technology. There are several concepts like JAXWS, JAXB, WSDL, Schemas....etc and each plays a significant role in the Web service infrastructure per say. And there are plenty of Web service based use cases which most of the people (specially ones like me) don't even know.

I am just going a bit far as I can understand the semantics of this framework (CXF) better and therefore also understand the Web service as a technology better.

My apologies if that has confused you. I am just kinda researching and it can just make me more better equipped to use Web services in projects.
No problem. I was just a bit concerned that you were going to get frustrated before you had a chance to get something working. We have been using CXF for over a year now in a production e-Learning portal that servers over 8000 students. We added Web Services after we had the portal in production so it had to go from test to production without a hitch and work well as it had the day earlier (only faster).

We looked at Axis and CXF and chose CXF because it seemed to be packaged in a way that kept us from having to invest a lot in learning the underlying plumbing.

We have been very happy with both performance and ease of development.

There is nothing wrong with the investigation that you are doing and I am sure that it will give you a higher level of confidence with what you are about to build.

I am just not sure where the law of diminishing returns sets in with learning CXF internals since so much seems to work so well right out of the box if one follows the examples and the documentation.

Ron


Thx

Raj

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Ron Wheeler <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I am certainly not an expert in this area but it seems that you
    are getting a bit far into the details.
    CXF looks after a lot of the plumbing for you and you should be
    able to get a simple web service and its clients going without to
    much worry about the internal flow.

    What are you trying to build?
    Is there anything about what you need to do that you expect to be
    outside the normal web services pattern?

    We were able to build quite a few web services in a simple
    Tomcat/Jetspeed portal environment just by following the normal
    CXF patterns as described on the site and in the docs.
    I did not do the work but my team got things done very quickly
    with no big complaints or delays.

    It might help if you described your IDE and the frameworks that
    you want to use.
    For example, we used Eclipse/STS with a Spring, Hibernate, MySQL
    and Tomcat.
    This probably has an impact on the tools, process and packaging
    that people will recommend to you.

    Good luck.
    Ron



    On 15/03/2011 11:10 AM, Raj Floyd wrote:

        Hi Dan,

        Thanks for the reply. But still need to understand this. I am
        a novice in
        Web service and researching on various Web service use cases.
        The obvious
        and basic ones are consuming the service with the code first
        and contract
        first approach. Coming to your reply:

        1. I can use the generated client and server code (and they do
        not use
        ObjectFactory or XXResponse classes) and comfortably run my
        services. Now as
        you said the ObjectFactory is checked by JAXB for xsd:any
        type. What
        situation makes use of this scenario?

        2. XX and XXResponse are used as wrappers @ runtime. It
        happens when?

        I am sorry for the above questions, it may sound trivial, but
        need to
        understand the flow. Any pointers will be greatly appreciated.

        Thx

        Raj

        On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Daniel Kulp<[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:

            On Tuesday 15 March 2011 8:27:40 AM Raj Floyd wrote:

                Hi,

                When I use wsdl2java with either client or server
                option, it generates
                ObjectFactory class,

            JAXB itself uses that.  In cases where there are xsd:any
            and similar or
            places
            where a JAXBElement is needed, it checks the ObjectFactory
            for the right
            methods for dealing with the actual elements.

                XX and XXResponse classes. Why are these classes
                generated and where it could be useful?

            When available, they are used at runtime.  The parameters
            (and returns) are
            wrappered with these objects and fed into JAXB as one
            whole unit instead of
            for each param.

            --
            Daniel Kulp
            [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            http://dankulp.com/blog
            Talend - http://www.talend.com




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