Hi,

> 1) Is the mapping I have provided in my last post right or wrong ?

>From me view your mapping is correct, I would add RequireThumbprintReference  
>with thumbprint reference (certificate hash) - see my previous answer for 
>details.
The best way however, is trying and validation this.

> 2) As I have only <sp:RequireThumbprintReference/> for InitiatorToken and
> RecipientToken policy assertion, what is the consequence for Token
> reference ? Which one is mandatory (or not) with this policy assertion ?

I would say that the thumbprint reference (certificate hash) is mandatory - I 
have sent sample in my previous mail.

Regards,
Andrei.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: COURTAULT Francois [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Dienstag, 17. Dezember 2013 16:01
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Cc: Andrei Shakirin
> Subject: RE: Spec questions
> 
> Hello guys,
> 
> I really need your answers to the questions I have asked in my last post.
> Could you look at those please ?
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: COURTAULT Francois
> Sent: vendredi 13 décembre 2013 17:46
> To: [email protected]; Andrei Shakirin
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Spec questions
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Any answer to my previous questions ?
> 
> Best Regards.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: COURTAULT Francois [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: mercredi 11 décembre 2013 09:45
> To: Andrei Shakirin; [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Spec questions
> 
> Hello Andrei,
> 
> Not sure to really understand you, sorry about that.
> I want to figure out if, for token reference, as we may use 3 ways according
> to the spec, depending on policy assertion like Require*, it is mandatory or
> not to use such or such token reference way. I want also to know, in case of
> some Require* assertions are missing, if a default behavior is expected.
> 
> 1) Is the mapping I have provided in my last post right or wrong ?
> 2) As I have only <sp:RequireThumbprintReference/> for InitiatorToken and
> RecipientToken policy assertion, what is the consequence for Token
> reference ? Which one is mandatory (or not) with this policy assertion ?
> 
> Best Regards.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrei Shakirin [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: mardi 10 décembre 2013 15:45
> To: COURTAULT Francois; [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Spec questions
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In my understanding, if you specify Require*assertions, exactly this is
> allowed to reference Token:
> <sp:RequireKeyIdentifierReference /> - key identifier (for X.509 Subject Key
> Identifier) <sp:RequireEmbeddedTokenReference /> - Binary Security Token
> <sp:RequireIssuerSerialReference />  - issuer serial
> <sp:RequireThumbprintReference> - thumbprint reference (certificate
> hash), looks like:
> 
> <wsse:SecurityTokenReference>
>             <wsse:KeyIdentifier
>                 EncodingType="http://...-wss-soap-message-security-
> 1.0#Base64Binary"
>                 ValueType="http://.../oasis-wss-soap-message-security-
> 1.1#ThumbprintSHA1"
>                 >uYn3PK2wXheN2lLZr4n2mJjoWE0=</wsse:KeyIdentifier>
>   </wsse:SecurityTokenReference>
> 
> Regards,
> Andrei.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: COURTAULT Francois [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2013 11:59
> > To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > Cc: Andrei Shakirin
> > Subject: RE: Spec questions
> >
> > Hello Colm,
> >
> > The only Require* I have in my policy file are:
> >      - <sp:RequireThumbprintReference/> for InitiatorToken and
> > RecipientToken
> >      - <sp:RequireSignatureConfirmation/>
> >
> > Does one of the above policy assertion describes the way we have to
> > reference the X509 token in the <wsse:SecurityTokenReference> ?
> > If yes, I suppose that it is the <sp:RequireThumbprintReference/> but
> > I don't see the link with 3 possible options we may have for token
> reference:
> >     - Reference to a Subject Key Identifier
> >     - Reference to a Binary Security Token
> >     - Reference to an Issuer and Serial Number
> >
> > According to me, the links between policy assertions and token
> > reference looks like below:
> >     - Reference to a Subject Key Identifier is required by the
> > <sp:RequireKeyIdentifierReference /> presence
> >     - Reference to a Binary Security Token is required by the
> > <sp:RequireEmbeddedTokenReference /> presence
> >     - Reference to an Issuer and Serial Number is requires by the
> > <sp:RequireIssuerSerialReference /> presence
> >
> > This is why I am a little bit lost :-( and though requires your help.
> >
> > Best Regards.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Colm O hEigeartaigh [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: mardi 10 décembre 2013 11:28
> > To: COURTAULT Francois
> > Cc: Andrei Shakirin; [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Spec questions
> >
> > No, if you have a Require* Assertion, then only that is allowed to
> > reference that token.
> >
> > Colm.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:18 PM, COURTAULT Francois <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello guys,
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for your explanations :-) The security assertion I only
> > > have is RequireThumbprintReference.
> > >
> > > So in such case, does that mean that the 3 ways to reference an
> > > X.509 token in <wsse:SecurityTokenReference>:
> > >  *         Reference to a Subject Key Identifier
> > >  *         Reference to a Binary Security Token
> > >  *         Reference to an Issuer and Serial Number
> > >
> > > are allowed ?
> > >
> > > Best regards.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andrei Shakirin [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: lundi 9 décembre 2013 15:46
> > > To: [email protected]; COURTAULT Francois
> > > Cc: [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: Spec questions
> > >
> > > Hi Colm,
> > >
> > > That was my missing piece of the my puzzle :)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Andrei.
> > >
> > > From: Colm O hEigeartaigh [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Montag, 9. Dezember 2013 11:33
> > > To: COURTAULT Francois
> > > Cc: Andrei Shakirin; [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: Spec questions
> > >
> > >
> > > > I also interpret <sp:ProtectTokens/> in this way. If it is active,
> > > > the
> > > signature must protect the used token as well:
> > >
> > > +1.
> > >
> > > > They can be controlled through following policy assertions: ...
> > > Note that the MustSupport* policy assertions only state the the
> > > message initiator/recipient must be able to process various ways of
> > > identifying keys. It doesn't mandate them. To do this, take a look
> > > at the various policies associated with a particular token. For
> > > example, the X509Token policy has the following optional policies:
> > >
> > > <sp:RequireKeyIdentifierReference ... /> ?
> > > <sp:RequireIssuerSerialReference ... /> ?
> > > <sp:RequireEmbeddedTokenReference ... /> ?
> > > <sp:RequireThumbprintReference ... /> ?
> > > Colm.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 6:17 PM, COURTAULT Francois <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hello Andrei,
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for your interpretation :-) Colm could you confirm
> > > please ?
> > >
> > > For my second question regarding SecurityTokenReference, I have only
> > > the following policy assertions:
> > >       <sp:MustSupportRefKeyIdentifier/>
> > >       <sp:MustSupportRefIssuerSerial/>
> > >       <sp:MustSupportRefThumbprint/>
> > >       <sp:MustSupportRefEncryptedKey/>
> > >       <sp:RequireSignatureConfirmation/>
> > >
> > > My interpretation about MustSupportRefThumbprint, for example, is
> > > that the initiator and the recipient MUST be able to process
> > > references using Token thumbprints. This means that any URI (a
> > > reference), in the Signature section, which contains token
> > > thumbprint like URI="#X509-21B185F9A383FC218D138383549326938", has
> to be processed:
> > am
> > > I correct ?
> > >
> > > If we have <sp:MustSupportRefKeyIdentifier/>, does that mean that we
> > > have to have for the SecurityToken reference something like:
> > >                                         <wsse:SecurityTokenReference
> > >                                                 xmlns:wsse="
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-wssecurity-s
> > > ec
> > > ext-1.0.xsd
> > > "
> > >                                                 xmlns:wsse11="
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/oasis-wss-wssecurity-secext-1.1.xsd";
> > >                                                 xmlns:wsu="
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-wssecurity-u
> > > ti
> > > lity-1.0.xsd
> > > "
> > >                                                 wsse11:TokenType="
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-x509-token-p
> > > ro
> > > file-1.0#X509v3
> > > "
> > >
> > > wsu:Id="str_22Ps0gftJ20pYdu9">
> > >                                                 <wsse:KeyIdentifier
> > >                                                         EncodingType="
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-soap-
> message
> > > -
> > s
> > > ecurity-1.0#Base64Binary
> > > "
> > >                                                         ValueType="
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/oasis-wss-soap-message-security-1.1#T
> > > hu
> > > mbprintSHA1 ">KRyiNJ91OZnOVXzLWazn3ISSs+s=</wsse:KeyIdentifier>
> > >
> > > </wsse:SecurityTokenReference>
> > >
> > > instead of
> > >                                         <wsse:SecurityTokenReference
> > >
> > > wsu:Id="STR-21B185F9A383FC218D138383549326940">
> > >                                                 <wsse:Reference
> > > URI="#X509-21B185F9A383FC218D138383549326938"
> > >                                                         ValueType="
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-x509-token-
> > profile-1.0#X509v3"
> > > />
> > >
> > > </wsse:SecurityTokenReference> ?
> > >
> > > Best Regards.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andrei Shakirin [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: vendredi 6 décembre 2013 18:01
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Cc: [email protected]; COURTAULT Francois
> > > Subject: RE: Spec questions
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Colm knows the subject better, anyway short answer from me:
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: COURTAULT Francois
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2013 14:32
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Cc: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Spec questions
> > > >
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I try to understand what policy requires that a Certificate
> > > > reference has to be included in the SignedInfo section.
> > > > Is it due to  <sp:ProtectTokens/> policy assertion ?  If I read
> > > > the spec at §6.5, it was stated that:
> > > > "This boolean property specifies whether signatures must cover the
> > > > token used to generate that signature. If the value is 'true',
> > > > then each token used to generate a signature MUST be covered by
> > > > that
> > > signature."
> > > >
> > > > My interpretation of this sentence is that the token used for the
> > > > signature has to be included in the signature so that the
> > > > SignedInfo section has to contain the token reference: is my
> > > > interpretation correct
> > > ?
> > > > It also means that if we use Asymmetric binding, it is mandatory
> > > > to have in the SignedInfo section something like:
> > > > <ds:Reference URI="X509-<thumbprint>>: right ?
> > >
> > > I also interpret <sp:ProtectTokens/> in this way. If it is active,
> > > the signature must protect the used token as well:
> > >
> > > <wsse:BinarySecurityToken>
> > > xmlns:wsu="
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-wssecurity-u
> > > ti
> > > lity-1.0.xsd
> > > "
> > >       EncodingType="
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-soap-messa
> > > ge-security-1.0#Base64Binary"
> > >       ValueType="
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-x509-token-
> > profile-1.0#X509v3"
> > >  wsu:Id="CertId-3201971"> ...
> > > </wsse:BinarySecurityToken>
> > >
> > > <ds:Signature xmlns:ds="http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#";
> > >  Id="Signature-20079748">
> > >         <ds:SignedInfo>
> > >           <ds:CanonicalizationMethod \
> > >                 Algorithm="http://www.w3.org/2001/10/xml-exc-c14n#"; />
> > >           <ds:SignatureMethod Algorithm="
> > > http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#rsa-sha1"; \ /> ...
> > >           <ds:Reference URI="#CertId-3201971">
> > >             <ds:Transforms>
> > >               <ds:Transform Algorithm="
> > > http://www.w3.org/2001/10/xml-exc-c14n#"; />
> > >             </ds:Transforms>
> > >             <ds:DigestMethod Algorithm="
> > > http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#sha1"; />
> > >             <ds:DigestValue>
> > >             5eik4SB6Q0N9fWnyA9HDtDnfjeY=</ds:DigestValue>
> > >           </ds:Reference>
> > > ...
> > >         </ds:SignedInfo>
> > > </ds:Signature>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I have also another questions. In the spec at §3.2 Token
> > > > References, it is stated that the:
> > > > " <wsse:SecurityTokenReference> element MAY reference an X.509
> > token
> > > > type by one of the following means:
> > > >
> > > > ·         Reference to a Subject Key Identifier
> > > >
> > > > ·         Reference to a Binary Security Token
> > > >
> > > > ·         Reference to an Issuer and Serial Number"
> > > > Could you confirm me that the 3 means are possible and equivalent ?
> > > > Or depending on a security policy assertion, we have to use only
> > > > one of these methods ?
> > > >
> > >
> > > 1. The Reference to a Subject Key Identifier means that
> > > SecurityTokenReference contains KeyIdentifier with X509 SubjectDN.
> > > X509 certificate can be found based on this data.
> > > 2. The Reference to a Binary Security Token means that X509 is
> > > embedded into message security header and just referenced from the
> > signature:
> > >                         <wsse:BinarySecurityToken
> > >                                 EncodingType="
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-soap-
> message
> > > -
> > s
> > > ecurity-1.0#Base64Binary
> > > "
> > >                                 ValueType="
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-x509-token-p
> > > ro
> > > file-1.0#X509v3
> > > "
> > >
> > > wsu:Id="X509-21B185F9A383FC218D138383549326938">...
> > >                                               </wsse:BinarySecurityToken>
> > >                                           ...
> > >                         <wsse:SecurityTokenReference
> > >
> > > wsu:Id="STR-21B185F9A383FC218D138383549326940">
> > >                                 <wsse:Reference
> > > URI="#X509-21B185F9A383FC218D138383549326938"
> > >                                         ValueType="
> > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-x509-token-
> > profile-1.0#X509v3"
> > > />
> > >                         </wsse:SecurityTokenReference> 3. The
> > > Reference to an Issuer and Serial Number is other way to identify
> > > X509 certificate - provider Issuer DN and serial number that also
> > > identify certificate unambiguously. In this case
> > > SecurityTokenReference contains X509Data element with
> X509IssuerSerial.
> > >
> > > AFAIK all are possible.
> > >
> > > They can be controlled through following policy assertions:
> > >
> > > §9.2:
> > > /sp:Wss11/wsp:Policy/sp:MustSupportRefKeyIdentifier
> > > This optional element is a policy assertion indicates that the [Key
> > > Identifier References] property is set to 'true'.
> > >
> > > /sp:Wss11/wsp:Policy/sp:MustSupportRefIssuerSerial
> > > This optional element is a policy assertion indicates that the
> > > [Issuer Serial References] property is set to 'true'.
> > >
> > > /sp:Wss11/wsp:Policy/sp:MustSupportRefExternalURI
> > > This optional element is a policy assertion indicates that the
> > > [External URI References] property is set to 'true'.
> > >
> > > /sp:Wss11/wsp:Policy/sp:MustSupportRefEmbeddedToken
> > > This optional element is a policy assertion indicates that the
> > > [Embedded Token References] property is set to 'true'.
> > >
> > > /sp:Wss11/wsp:Policy/sp:MustSupportRefThumbprint
> > > This optional element is a policy assertion indicates that the
> > > [Thumbprint References] property is set to 'true'.
> > >
> > > /sp:Wss11/wsp:Policy/sp:MustSupportRefEncryptedKey
> > > This optional element is a policy assertion indicates that the
> > > [EncryptedKey References] property is set to 'true'.
> > >
> > > /sp:Wss11/wsp:Policy/sp:RequireSignatureConfirmation
> > > This optional element is a policy assertion indicates that the
> > > [Signature Confirmation] property is set to 'true'.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Andrei.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards.
> > > >
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