On 13/07/2023 19:37, Shawn McKinney wrote:
On Jul 12, 2023, at 8:57 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <elecha...@gmail.com> wrote:
Apache DS is a pretty big project. It depends on many moving parts:
- Apache MINA for the network layer (49,610 Single lines of code, aka slocs)
- Apache LDAP API for the base LDAP operation (212,990 slocs)
- Apache Mavibot for the new database (17,590 slocs)
- Apache Directory Server (184,006 slocs)
and I'm afraid to be one of the only active committer for most of those
projects, with a day job and a family... So doing my best, but it takes time ;-)
I have varying responses ranging from the project’s importance, as represented
by the millions of downloads yearly, to thanking you for your efforts keeping
it going, into encouragement that we continue on.
There’s lots of potential here. But folks seem disinterested in helping. How
can we get this going again?
This is complicated.
* First, this is an almost 20 years old project (ApacheDS started in
2005). It's hard to jump in.
* Second, the code base is impressive. It's alreday hard to get into a
10/20K lines of code base, here we are an order of magnitude higher.
* Third, in order to get into ApacheDS, you must know MINA, Ldap API,
JDBM, which is not simple
* Forth, the documentation, especially the technical one, is light
* Fifth, LDAP is certainly not the most attractive technology, by far...
I would also add that The ASF, as a foundation, is intimidating. The
entry barrier is considered high, which is all but true. But, well, even
when we tried to open the doors widely, it didn't brought any new blood!
So at the end of the day, it's mainly a matter of being passionate. If
you are not, then it might be a need to get something in a brick you use
in your day job. And that's fine too.
We *could* also advocate more, but that means running conferences,
educating youngies at univ, or whatever works. I'm not an expert at
that. IN 20 years, I was only able to bring 2 students to the project,
and that is pretty much it.
May be The ASF is also not as attractive as it was?
Just my own perception here...
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