Well, personally I haven't been using DFly the last few years, but I do
like to get updates from this mail-list.
Web-based forums only works for those who checks it at least twice a
week, the rest of us gets out of the loop really fast.
Please keep the "users" maillist as a occasionally newsfeed for those of
us that have old Fords to renovate..
On 2019-07-29 19:10, Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 10:27, Matthew Dillon <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The mailing list software has been less than stellar, but the
bigger problem is in areas that we have very little control over.
We have no control over other people's spam filters, and the
mailing list software itself has to deal with a constant influx of
spam (which is why you have to be subscribed, now). It is almost
impossible to manage it any other way. Nearly all of the internet
has moved on to WWW based forum-like mechanisms because they are a
whole lot easier to manage. We're going to have to as well.
I feel that we do not have a choice here. Privately-run mail
systems, in general, are almost dead due to the spam load. I have
to forward my own personal domain email through GMail just to be
able to continue using it and my GMail spam mailbox consistently
contains more than 3000 spams in it (30-day expiration, so ...
100+ spams per day). And that doesn't count the ones Google
auto-deletes immediately or the ones my smtp server discards.
I've tried everything possible to keep my personal domain and
dragonfly's domain email usable but its an impossible task.
-Matt
Yes, but it works on OpenBSD.org — the confirmation emails do the
trick, and are a much better option than simply discarding emails from
non-subscribers. Greylisting through PF spamd is also an option.
Personally, I do passive fingerprinting based on OS in my PF(4) spamd
setup, which means that most of my mail isn't even subject to
greylisting (e.g., Linux and BSD go directly to the real SMTP daemon,
whereas all the botnets have to go through spamd first). Another
option is to use greytrapping, including through a secondary
low-priority MX IP address.
Yes, I agree; the mailing list software may be less than stellar, but
it's still better than any forum software I've ever encountered. If
folks want forum-like functionality, there's already Reddit and
Lobsters available as options. (Plus, forum software is not exactly
immune from spam, either.)
C.
