On 12 Apr 2017, at 22:12, Erik Schnetter <schnet...@cct.lsu.edu> wrote:

> Francisco
> 
> Without hydrodynamics, nothing fundamental sets the mass scale. If you assume 
> that c = G = 1, then there is a rescaling freedom for M, the black hole mass. 
> Apart from this, it is up to the designer of the parameter file what they 
> call M. I think that the ADM mass is a good choice, but others might use a 
> different convention.

Hi Erik,

If you want the units of the simulation to be the ADM mass, then you need a 
mechanism to iterate the bare mass parameters of the punctures to make this the 
case.  We don't have that in TwoPunctures; we iterate until we get the puncture 
masses equal to the targets.  I think it is useful to compare two BBH systems 
where the BHs have the same total mass. This would be natural also if you were 
comparing with PN.  I'm not sure it is so useful to compare systems with the 
same ADM mass; the ADM mass will consist of the BH masses, plus the energy 
content in the junk radiation, and the orbital energy.  The junk radiation 
isn't very interesting, which is why I am rarely interested in M_ADM.

> For example, in <http://einsteintoolkit.org/gallery/bbh/index.html> I assume 
> that M_ADM = 1, but I don't know whether this is taken from the initial 
> conditions or whether this is measured after the initial junk radiation has 
> left.

No, M_ADM is not 1 for that parameter file.  It's

initial-ADM-energy            = 0.9899366929086094169

In the parameter file, we have
q = 36.0/29.0               # Mass ratio: q = mp/mm >= 1
M = 1.0                     # Total mass
mp = M * q/(1+q)           # Heavier, larger BH, AH1, SS 0
mm = M * 1/(1+q)           # Lighter, smaller BH, AH2, SS 1
TwoPunctures::target_M_plus             = $mp
TwoPunctures::target_M_minus            = $mm

so the sum of the puncture masses is 1 in the units of the simulation, so the 
units of the simulation are the sum of the puncture masses.

-- 
Ian Hinder
http://members.aei.mpg.de/ianhin

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