Hello Stuart,

thanx for the clarification and also for the proposed solution to add a 
configurable Manifest
Output location to the bundle plugin. I think this is the best solution.
I have another question about using the bnd -split-package directive with the 
bundle-plugin.
I have used other directives like -exportcontents with the plugin which worked 
but not the 
-split-package directive when using it this way

<_split-package>merge-last</_split-package>

It is not a big problem - also without setting the directive BND merges the 
packages in the right
way but outputs warnings that it misses the directive. 

Thank you again,

Michael




-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Stuart McCulloch
Gesendet: Freitag, 21. September 2007 10:00
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: connection of maven-bundle-plugin functionality to eclipse IDE 
OSGi startup?

On 21/09/2007, Stuart McCulloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> On 21/09/2007, Hampel, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Regarding the answer of Stuart I have a question about the intended use
> > of the bundleplugin
> > Manifest goal.
> > In the moment we are using the goal to generate the Manifest file to run
> > our bundles within
> > Eclipse (put the generated Manifest file where Eclipse expects it). (the
> > manifest goal runs additional
> > To the bundle goal)
> > This process works and is easy to install. I know that in certain
> > circumstances you will get
> > Differing manifest files from the manifest and bundle process - but
> > in  most cases they are the same.
> > Stuart could you please detail why I should not use the manifest goal in
> > the described way?
>
>
> it was really more of a warning to Manuel not to rely on it in this
> scenario
> as it wasn't originally designed for this use (it recomputes the manifest)
>
> differences usually occur when embedding dependencies or including
> resources
> - basically when the bundle contents aren't directly derived from the
> classpath
>
> if you run the manifest goal _after_ the bundle goal then it usually does
> match,
> but in this particular scenario (where Manuel wants to embed dependencies)
> it
> is safer to extract the manifest rather than use the manifest goal.
>
> perhaps we should update the bundle goal so it also writes the manifest to
> the
> file system, by default to target/classes/META-INF but allow custom
> locations...
> then you'd only need to use one goal to build the bundle and get the
> manifest,
> rather then computing it twice - I'll probably raise a JIRA issue to
> support this
>

done... see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-376

Thanx in advance for any help,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Im Auftrag von Stuart
> > McCulloch
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 21. September 2007 05:00
> > An: [email protected]
> > Betreff: Re: connection of maven-bundle-plugin functionality to eclipse
> > IDE OSGi startup?
> >
> > On 21/09/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > i managed to generate a bundle which lets itself install and start on
> > > commandline osgi-container. for the developing phase of course i would
> > > like to use OSGi runtime inside eclipse IDE, so debugging is possible
> > > and implement/run cycle is short.
> > >
> > > i am building my bundle with maven bundle-plugin and following
> > settings:
> > >
> > > <instructions>
> > > ...
> > >   <Embed-Transitive>true</Embed-Transitive>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > <Embed-Dependency>*;groupId=!org.eclipse.equinox;inline=false</Embed-Dependency>
> >
> > > ...
> > > </instructions>
> > >
> > > basically running my osgi bundle inside eclipse works if i add
> > generated
> > > manifest to <rootFolderOfProject>/META-INF and if i layout embedded
> > > dependencies (see settings above) in <rootFolderOfProject> too (as
> > > stated in generated MANIFEST.MF). of course this manual actions are
> > too
> > > much and hence not doable when developing.
> >
> >
> > yes - these are limitations of Eclipse PDE, which expects the manifest
> > in a
> > particular
> > place (which doesn't match well with Maven, where generated files go
> > inside
> > target)
> > and expects embedded jars to be exactly placed relative to the project
> > root.
> >
> > has anybody experience/suggestions in getting the bundle for release
> > > right and working inside eclipse IDE with same maven-bundle-plugin
> > > settings (dependencies are referenced correctly and correct path of
> > > MANIFEST.MF is set when doing RunAs...->OSGiStartup)?
> >
> >
> > there are a couple of things that can help automate this:
> >
> > 1)  put dependencies under a target/dependency folder (with no group
> > sub-folder):
> >
> >         <Embed-Directory>target/dependency</Embed-Directory>
> >         <Embed-StripGroup>true</Embed-StripGroup>
> >
> >       you can then use the dependency plugin "copy-dependencies" goal to
> > copy the
> >       dependencies locally - they should then match the classpath
> > entries
> > for Eclipse
> >
> > 2)  unpack the generated manifest using another plugin (either antrun or
> > exec plugin)
> >      - you can't use the bundleplugin manifest goal, as that's designed
> > to
> > work against
> >      existing non-OSGi artifacts that need wrapping
> >
> > FYI, the Pax-Construct plugin and archetypes do a lot of this for you
> > behind
> > the scenes:
> >
> >    http://wiki.ops4j.org/confluence/x/8Q
> >
> > however, I'd strongly suggest trying out the Pax-Construct v2 *beta* as
> > it
> > uses a much
> > cleaner project layout and has a bit better Eclipse integration (it
> > munges
> > the manifest
> > before copying it to the PDE location, so you can put embedded jars
> > anywhere
> > you like)
> >
> >
> >
> > http://mcculls.blogspot.com/2007/09/calling-all-testers-pax-construct-v2.html
> >
> > Unfortunately the documentation is lacking, but each script supports -h
> > for
> > help, and just
> > running the script without any options will get it to prompt you, with
> > example responses.
> > Full documentation should be there next week :)
> >
> > There is one remaining niggle when developing OSGi with Eclipse and
> > Maven -
> > in Eclipse
> > developers tend to edit the PDE manifest first to add required packages
> > to
> > the import list.
> > Then they build using Maven and wonder why it's failing - this is
> > because
> > they haven't told
> > Maven of the required dependency!
> >
> > Projects like q4e ( http://code.google.com/p/q4e) can help, as they make
> > it
> > easier to add
> > dependencies direct from Eclipse, but they're in the early stages of
> > integration. There are
> > also ways to make your local Eclipse installation appear as a maven
> > repository, so you can
> > reference Eclipse jars from maven without having to locate a remote repo
> > for
> > them:
> >
> >    http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Plugin
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > manuel aldana
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > homepage: www.aldana-online.de
> > >
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