Thanks for the replies.

It's good to hear that it is a good idea to use OSGi/Felix.  

I think I'll try to start a simple project, a file explorer or something, using 
OSGi, and see how I get on.
The problem seems to be finding information about it.  I have the demo checked 
out, I'll try get everything set up in Eclipse at the weekend and have a proper 
look.

> > In the past I've done some smaller Swing/OSGi applications, some  
> > even open source. Recently we've developed a couple of commercial  
> > ones that unfortunately I cannot show here. None of that is based  
> > on JSR-296 though.

If you can post any links to your old work that would be great.  

> > There are, unfortunately, hardly any books on OSGi.

That's a shame.  I searched google using both of your names :) and it's brought 
up some intresting threads and OSGi things that I will have a look through 
aswell.

Thanks

On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:24:01 -0400
"Richard S. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I agree with Marcel, I think it is a good idea. Our example app  
> creates a very simple swing app that is extensible by bundles:
> 
>       http://felix.apache.org/site/apache-felix-application- 
> demonstration.html
> 
> It is too simplistic, but it gives you an example to see it all  
> working together.
> 
> -> richard
> 
> On Oct 18, 2007, at 3:37 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
> 
> > Hello Jim,
> >
> > On Oct 17, 2007, at 21:59 , Jim B wrote:
> >
> >> I want to ask a general question about designing from the ground  
> >> up a Java Desktop application using the Felix OSGi framework.   
> >> Really I'm just looking for opinions as too whether it's a good  
> >> use case for it or not.  I'm designing two, small, hopefully fast  
> >> application in Java.  One sort of is a workbench app but I feel  
> >> the likes of Eclipse RPC and its massive size as over kill.  I'd  
> >> like to try keep it under a meg, as far under as I can.  My first  
> >> intention was to build the core swing application, probably using  
> >> the new Application framework (JSR 296?) and then use the Java  
> >> Plugin Framework(JPF) to make it extensible.  I plan to have the  
> >> app run using only the core but be fully extensible.  So I could  
> >> say, create a new view, like thumbnails for the data display panel  
> >> and have all the menus automatically put this option in the views  
> >> section so it can be chosen and just work.  Then when I have time  
> >> I can just stick in new jars to add new features.  The core is  
> >> obviously the important part and people can start using it once I  
> >> have finished the core.
> >
> > First of all, let me state that I think it's a good use case. In  
> > fact, a while ago I wrote a small article (in dutch, so you  
> > probably can't read it, but I'll provide a link anyway: http:// 
> > www.osgi.nl/2007/03/11/framework-voor-de-desktop.html) exactly  
> > about this: how JSR 296 would benefit from being implemented on top  
> > of OSGi.
> >
> >> I look around on the web and sourceforge and I don't see any  
> >> project or people talking about projects like this that they have  
> >> done using OSGi.  Other than eclipse, net beans and things using  
> >> their RPC stuff.  Is this just to simple a case for the use of  
> >> OSGi.  I see OSGi as something very useful to learn, and JPF/Felix  
> >> are similar in kilobyte size so it doesn't affect my size limit.
> >
> > In the past I've done some smaller Swing/OSGi applications, some  
> > even open source. Recently we've developed a couple of commercial  
> > ones that unfortunately I cannot show here. None of that is based  
> > on JSR-296 though.
> >
> >> Has anyone done something simple like this, maybe as an open  
> >> source project with documentation :)
> >
> > Perhaps this is something we can start doing? Developing the basic  
> > components for doing a Swing based UI for OSGi. I'm sure others  
> > have an interest in this too, and even for Felix itself it would be  
> > great to have a "management UI" that makes it very easy to monitor  
> > all aspects of the framework.
> >
> >> Or does anyone have any advice, things I should read.  Are their  
> >> any good books about software design using OSGi?
> >
> > There are, unfortunately, hardly any books on OSGi.
> >
> > Greetings, Marcel
> >
> >
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