I saw the dev list posting.  It is not a stopper for me right now as I am
building a custom distro anyway with branding and all.
I will just re-package startup.properties and config.properties.

Can you recommend an approach to dealing with those two files?
In mean time I will keep an eye on the changes and merge karaf changes with
my local distro.

Thanks!
Dmitry

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Richard S. Hall <[email protected]>wrote:

> Thanks. We are mulling over our options...
>
> -> richard
>
> On 5/15/09 2:31 PM, Dmitry Sklyut wrote:
>
>> Issue created: *FELIX-1161<
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-1161>
>>
>> *
>> Thanks!
>> Dmitry
>>
>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Richard S. Hall<[email protected]
>> >wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 5/15/09 12:11 PM, Dmitry Sklyut wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Should I create an issue and attach a file there or I can send a zipped
>>>> up
>>>> maven project to generate a zip that can later be deployed into karaf
>>>> here?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Create an issue, definitely. Thanks!
>>>
>>> ->  richard
>>>
>>>
>>>  Dmitry
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Stuart McCulloch<[email protected]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 2009/5/15 Dmitry Sklyut<[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is locations of the equinox services/utils that I used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <!-- copied from pax runner equinox platform profile configuration -->
>>>>>> <bundle>
>>>>>>      <name>Eclipse utilities</name>
>>>>>>      <url>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://download.eclipse.org/equinox/drops/S-3.5M7-200904302300/org.eclipse.osgi.util_3.2.0.v20090429-1630.jar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> </url>
>>>>>>    </bundle>
>>>>>>    <bundle>
>>>>>>      <name>Eclipse compendium services</name>
>>>>>>      <url>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://download.eclipse.org/equinox/drops/S-3.5M7-200904302300/org.eclipse.osgi.services_3.2.0.v20090429-1630.jar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> </url>
>>>>>>    </bundle>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like equinox splits compendium between services and utils.
>>>>>> I also found DynamicImport confusing but I am not sure how it impacts
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> whole class loading issue.  Still learning here :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would be happy to try a patched compendium bundle.  I would really
>>>>>> hate
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> keep evolving my own version of kernel :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> a recreatable testcase would also be extremely useful :)
>>>>>
>>>>> ie. something 'contained' that we can unzip, build, and debug against
>>>>> to
>>>>> check the wiring
>>>>>
>>>>> but it does sound like having both services and utils (esp. the
>>>>> tracker)
>>>>> inside the same
>>>>> bundle with a dynamic import is the issue - although it would be good
>>>>> to
>>>>> confirm this...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dmitry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Richard S. Hall<
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>         I think similar issues have been raised before. The only
>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>> I can
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> see
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> that is different, is Felix' compendium does a "DynamicImport-Package:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> *"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> avoid having hard dependencies on other packages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not exactly sure why this decision was made, but I think it was
>>>>>>> related to some situation where someone what some specific interface
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> out
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> compendium, but didn't want to be constrained by its other
>>>>>>> requirements
>>>>>>> (e.g., javax.servlet, etc.).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not sure if changing this would fix the issue. Dmitry, I could
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> create
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a modified version of compendium to send to you if you want to test
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> see if it fixes your issue. Could you send me a reference to Eclipse's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> compendium so I can look at its manifest?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ->   richard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/15/09 10:18 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not sure exactly.  I don't think this comes from a problem with the
>>>>>>>> classes used, but maybe from the version of the package exported.
>>>>>>>> IIRC, equinox follows the not yet published spec of OSGi 4.2, so it
>>>>>>>> may already has bumped some of the packages, though I'm still not
>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> how that would affect the bundles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We need to rule out a number of things: have you tried without
>>>>>>>> upgrading spring-dm ? What if you use felix instead of equinox ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 15:21, Dmitry Sklyut
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am trying to use Karaf with equinox and ran into a very strange
>>>>>>>>> classloading issue yesterday.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is a situation:
>>>>>>>>> 1. Stock karaf with FELIX-1150 (
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-1150) applied (upgrade
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Spring
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2.5.6.SEC01 and SpringDM 1.2.0) and config.properties modified to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> equinox (i.e. karaf.framework=equinox)
>>>>>>>>> 2. Bundle "datasource" wraps h2database and c3p0 and publishes a
>>>>>>>>> DataSource
>>>>>>>>> 3. Bundle "hibernate" is session factory producing bundle.  It
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> publishes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SessionFactory and Spring PlatformTransactionManager using SpringDM.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4. All of the supporting spring libraries (transaction, orm, etc)
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> hibernate (pulled from BRITS) and supporting java spec bundles are
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> deployed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When deploying those two bundles I was constantly getting a CNF on
>>>>>>>>> org.hibernate.JDBCException in Karaf from bundle .  Those bundles
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> working just fine with Pax Runner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought that it was a problem with my bundles.  I tried everything,
>>>>>>>>> modified imports, tried require bundle (with reexport and without),
>>>>>>>>> finally
>>>>>>>>> tried Dynamic import = *.
>>>>>>>>> Still I was getting a CNF.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I finally reconfigured Karaf to use:
>>>>>>>>> 1. org.eclipse.osgi.services-3.2.0.v20090429.jar vs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> org/apache/felix/org.osgi.compendium/${felix.compendium.version}/org.osgi.compendium-${felix.compendium.version}.jar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. org.eclipse.osgi.util-3.2.0.v20090429.jar because PAX runner uses
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> minimal equinox configuraiton.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now everything seems to work.  So I have a solution for my issue,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> still don't have a "WHY" this issue came up.  Can anyone think of a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "WHY"?
>>>>>>>>> Is it an isseu with Compendium services used in stock Karaf?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am willing to submit my changes as a patch but I would like to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this a little more to get it right.  I have a pax-construct project
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> generates required dependencies and bundles in question for testing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> anyone is interested in trying this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dmitry
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheers, Stuart
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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