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2010/5/6 Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]>:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 16:02, Bengt Rodehav <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Regarding the non" mvn:" protocols, I guess I'll either have to stop
>> using them as part of features or somehow exclude them fromthe
>> features-maven-plugin and handle them manually. It's a shame though...
>> Wouldn't it be a reasonable enhancement to the plugin to be able to
>> skip leading protocols as long as" mvn:" is present further down the
>> url?
>>
>
> Well, if we do the enhancement i talked about in another thread, which is to
> let
> OBR kick in and resolve any missing dependency, then the plugin would not
> be really helpfull anymore, would it ?
>
>
>>>
>>> I've totally missed this thread. Will check it out. Do you mean that the 
>>> alternate solution (OBR...) you mention will render the 
>>> features-maven-plugin unnecessary?
>>>
>>
>> Regarding maven 3, I think it can only be a matter of timing. Sooner
>> or later it should/must be supported. I think maven 3 compatibility
>> should also be added to the "todo list" (JIRA I guess).
>>
>>
> Agreed, but if we can't support both at the same time, i'd rather wait until
> 3.0 is released.
>
>>> I totally understand that. However, I haven't seen that situation before 
>>> since maven 3 is designed to be totally backwards compatible. Most of the 
>>> time the problems arise when the plugins use some unsupported/undocumented 
>>> feature.
>>>
>> /Bengt
>>
>>
>> 2010/5/6 Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]>:
>> > I'm not aware of any effort related to maven 3 yet.
>> >
>> > As for the war and ipojo protocols, i don't think it would work well.
>>  The
>> > features plugin try to generate a list of bundles using the mvn protocol
>> > only iirc.  And if you use something else, it won't be able to understand
>> > and find the required dependencies.
>> >
>> > I fear you may run into more problems trying to use the plugin than
>> > maintaining the feature manually.
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 14:38, Bengt Rodehav <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I also have another problem with the plugin. I don't seem to be able
>> >> to run it using maven 3 beta. I get the following error:
>> >>
>> >> [ERROR] Failed to execute goal
>> >> org.apache.felix.karaf.tooling:features-maven-plu
>> >> gin:1.4.0:add-features-to-repo (add-features-to-repo) on project
>> assembly:
>> >> Error
>> >>  populating repository: unknown protocol: null -> [Help 1]
>> >>
>> >> Note that I get this error even if I remove all references to "ipojo:"
>> >> and "war:". It seems to be a completely different problem. The plugin
>> >> works using maven 2.2.1 but we are in the process of migrating to
>> >> maven 3 and try to make sure that all our pom's work with the beta
>> >> version. Do you know if anyone have tried the plugin using maven 3? Is
>> >> anyone looking into maven 3 support?
>> >>
>> >> /Bengt
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2010/5/6 Bengt Rodehav <[email protected]>:
>> >> > Guillaume,
>> >> >
>> >> > I think I probably misunderstood how to use the plugin. I wasn't aware
>> >> > that all dependencies must be added to the maven project. I was hoping
>> >> > that they could be resolved anyway since they are listed in the
>> >> > features file. When I add all the dependencies, they will be installed
>> >> > in my local repo and is accessible to the plugin.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've now got almost everything to work expect for the url's that are
>> >> > not "mvn:". I also use "ipojo:" and "war:" in my features file, e g:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>  <bundle>war:mvn:se.digia.connect/gui-war/${project.version}/war?Webapp-Context=connect_gui</bundle>
>> >> >
>> >>
>>  <bundle>ipojo:mvn:se.digia.connect/test-route-template/${project.version}</bundle>
>> >> >
>> >> > How can I get the features-maven-plugin to work with those? At this
>> >> > point I'm not actually installing anything in Karaf, which means that
>> >> > the protocol in front of "mvn:" ("ipojo:" and "war:") should actually
>> >> > be skipped. Is there a workaround for this?
>> >> >
>> >> > /Bengt
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 2010/5/5 Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> Not sure to fully understand, but if those are dependencies of your
>> >> maven
>> >> >> project, they should be in your local repo, shouldn't they ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 23:02, Bengt Rodehav <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> It seems like the features-maven-plugin is exactly what I'm looking
>> >> >>> for. However I do run into one problem. I'm using a repository
>> manager
>> >> >>> (Nexus) but the features-maven-plugin seems to only look in the
>> locak
>> >> >>> repository (which doesn't contain everything). I get the following
>> >> >>> error message:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>  [INFO] [features:add-features-to-repo {execution:
>> >> add-features-to-repo}]
>> >> >>> Base repo: file://C:/dev/Maven/repository
>> >> >>> Copy:      commons-pool/commons-pool/1.5.4/commons-pool-1.5.4.jar
>> >> >>> Copy:
>> >> >>>
>>  org/apache/felix/karaf/shell/org.apache.felix.karaf.shell.ssh/1.4.0/o
>> >> >>> rg.apache.felix.karaf.shell.ssh-1.4.0.jar
>> >> >>> Copy:
>> >> >>>
>>  org/springframework/osgi/spring-osgi-annotation/1.2.0/spring-osgi-ann
>> >> >>> otation-1.2.0.jar
>> >> >>> Copy:      org/ops4j/pax/web/pax-web-api/0.7.2/pax-web-api-0.7.2.jar
>> >> >>> [INFO]
>> >> >>>
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>> [ERROR] BUILD ERROR
>> >> >>> [INFO]
>> >> >>>
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>> [INFO] Error populating repository
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Can I configure the plugin to use Nexus instead? It's a bit strange
>> >> >>> because first everything is being downloaded to Nexus (due to the
>> >> >>> dependencies I've added), but then when the plugin kicks in and the
>> >> >>> repository is about to be created, only the local repo is being
>> >> >>> searched.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Any ideas?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> /Bengt
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 2010/5/5 Bengt Rodehav <[email protected]>:
>> >> >>> > Thanks a lot Guillaume - I will definitely take a look at the
>> plugin
>> >> >>> > you mentioned.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > /Bengt
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > 2010/5/5 Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]>:
>> >> >>> >> We actually have a maven plugin that helps in doing that.
>> >> >>> >> Take a look at how we package ServiceMix NMR or the full
>> ServiceMix
>> >> >>> >> distribution.
>> >> >>> >> It's based on Karaf, but includes some changes and additional
>> >> bundles
>> >> >>> >> configured
>> >> >>> >> using features.   It sounds exactly like what you want.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/servicemix/smx4/nmr/trunk/assembly/
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> The plugin could be enhanced to make this task easier though, but
>> >> it's
>> >> >>> still
>> >> >>> >> a good
>> >> >>> >> starting point.  The final packaging and other changes are done
>> >> using
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> >> maven
>> >> >>> >> assembly plugin.   Any help / suggestion / patch would be
>> welcomed !
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> As for maven, two things:
>> >> >>> >>  * first, if a bundle can be located in the system folder, it
>> won't
>> >> try
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> >> find it in any
>> >> >>> >>    other maven repository, even for a snapshot
>> >> >>> >>  * second, the list of repositories where the maven url handler
>> can
>> >> >>> >> download the
>> >> >>> >>    artifacts from can be configured in
>> etc/org.ops4j.pax.url.mvn.cfg
>> >> >>> >> I agree i would not let artifacts be downloaded from the internet
>> >> >>> either.  A
>> >> >>> >> nice configuration
>> >> >>> >> would be to point to a nexus repository manager and the work
>> there.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:18, Bengt Rodehav <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>> I'm building an integration platform using Camel deployed in
>> Karaf.
>> >> >>> >>> The platform will be used for different kinds of applications
>> >> (mainly
>> >> >>> >>> integration oriented of course). I'm not entirely sure how I
>> best
>> >> >>> >>> construct an installation program for these applications.
>> Basically
>> >> I
>> >> >>> >>> need to:
>> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >>> a) Install Karaf. This is as easy as unpacking a zip file - very
>> >> >>> >>> convenient.
>> >> >>> >>> b) Configure Karaf. I will change some of the configuration
>> files
>> >> and
>> >> >>> >>> add some. This is not hard.
>> >> >>> >>> c) Install the bundles needed for my application. This is where
>> I
>> >> need
>> >> >>> >>> some advice.
>> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >>> My bundles are installed in two ways: via startup.properties and
>> >> via
>> >> >>> >>> features defined in org.apache.felix.karaf.features.cfg. The
>> >> bundles
>> >> >>> >>> in startup.properties refer to its location in the folder
>> "system"
>> >> >>> >>> under the Karaf installation. I will probably define an
>> additional
>> >> >>> >>> folder where I will put bundles that I add to
>> startup.properties.
>> >> This
>> >> >>> >>> is to clearly distinguish between the standard Karaf
>> installation
>> >> >>> >>> (which I want to be able to upgrade easily) and my application
>> >> >>> >>> specific bundles. Don't know how I do this but I imagine it is
>> >> >>> >>> configurable somehow.
>> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >>> However, most of my required bundles are installed as Karaf
>> >> features
>> >> >>> >>> via maven (the url's begin with mvn:). In a development
>> environment
>> >> >>> >>> this is very convenient. In a production environment I do not
>> want
>> >> my
>> >> >>> >>> application to go out on the Internet looking for bundles. I
>> want
>> >> it
>> >> >>> >>> to be totally self sustained. In other words, I want my
>> >> installation
>> >> >>> >>> to contain (in a subfolder to the Karaf installation) all the
>> >> needed
>> >> >>> >>> jars/bundles. My problem is how do I generate a folder
>> containing
>> >> all
>> >> >>> >>> my required bundles from a list of features (with the "mvn:"
>> url)?
>> >> >>> >>> Ideally I would list the features I want and then automatically
>> >> >>> >>> generate a folder containing all the referred bundles. I would
>> then
>> >> >>> >>> include this folder in my installation.
>> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >>> Has anyone solved this problem (going from development to
>> >> production
>> >> >>> >>> using Karaf)? What is best practice?
>> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >>> /Bengt
>> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >>>
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>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> --
>> >> >>> >> Cheers,
>> >> >>> >> Guillaume Nodet
>> >> >>> >> ------------------------
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>> >> >>> >
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>> >> >> Guillaume Nodet
>> >> >> ------------------------
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>> > Guillaume Nodet
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> Guillaume Nodet
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