Hi

I'm not a expert on UPnP/DLNA.

I hope OSGi could include/consider the DLNA implement, since it already have
UPnP.

And due to the fact we don't have a comprehensive open source Java UPnP/DLNA
implement, we may need some work around.
A bridge is just my quick thought ;D, I think the separation of different
modules will be better.

Patrick in (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-2730)  already point
out some important facts.
But I'm not sure the change to the xml generation would be enough.
I didn't purchase the DLNA Guidelines, from what I see DLNA also define
different discover method.
And additional devices like device for mobiles.

As a Java developer, I find it difficult to make a dlna app.
Since lacking of decent library and dlna charge a fee for their document and
test case.

Thanks for your concern
LongkerDandy

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Kai Hackbarth <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> the OSGi Residential Expert Group is currently collecting requirements for
> the new specification. If you let us know the requirements, we can work on
> an update of the UPnP specification.
>
> Regards,
> Kai
>
> Am 07.01.2011 um 13:47 schrieb Francesco Furfari:
>
> > Dear LongkerDandy,
> >
> > I think the right place to ask about  updates of the UPnP Specification
> is the OSGi Alliance ([email protected])
> > or the OSGi  Residential Expert Group.
> >
> > You are right, the OSGi UPnP specification hides a number of things
> (there are pro and cons).
> > Few weeks ago there was a simple request about DLNA.
> > Please look at Felix-2370 issue (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-2730)
> > Which are the missing features you would like to have in a customized
> UPnP implementation?
> > Please open or modify  an issue and specify your requirements.
> >
> > Yes, the CyberlinkJava was not very active recently, but the bridge
> solves only partially the problem, in any case (for DLNA)  we need a review
> of the specification.
> > I don't know Cling, how much distance there is from the Cyberlink stack
> to easily design an abstraction layer.
> > Another approach would be the modularization of all the UPnP stack, I
> mean the clear separation of the SOAP, GENA, and SSDP modules.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Francesco
> >
> >
> >
> > On 06/01/2011 16.15, LongkerDandy wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I'm not sure this is the right place to talk about this.
> >>
> >>
> >> I've been trying to write a Media Server, for a while.
> >> Already did some code with felix, (
> https://github.com/longkerdandy/chii2).
> >>
> >> I know OSGi has a UPnP standard and Felix has implement with
> CyberlinkJava.
> >> But seems the project is not very active, even it shipped with a Media
> >> Server sample, it won't work.
> >>
> >> The fact is most devices/softwares are now compatible with DLNA.
> >> And they somehow buggy may need different headers or respond.
> >>
> >> OSGi hide all the UPnP stack, all I can get is a device interface.
> >> I think the idea behind that is a full UPnP stack supports all the
> devices.
> >> But this may not work in real world, especially the UPnP stack is not
> >> actively maintained.
> >>
> >> Projects like PS3 Media Sever and Serviio is build from scratch.
> >> Now I'm trying Cling(http://teleal.org/projects/cling), another Java
> UPnP
> >> stack.
> >>
> >> My thought is,
> >>
> >> DLNA is not as open as UPnP.
> >> OSGi may also support DLNA, and let us have a real OpenSource Java DLNA
> >> implementation.
> >>
> >> For now, can we make a bridge between UPnP driver and real UPnP stack.
> >> Thus make the UPnP stack switch-able.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> LongkerDandy
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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