HI Achim, Thank you very much for the reply. Also I cannot find the eclipse integration for karaf anywhere. Looks like I have to build it from the source. Can you send the instructions if you have them?
Also even better if you know where I can download EIK or you have a copy you can sent it to me I would appreciate it. Thanks Matt On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Matt, > > I'm not Andreas, but I might as well answer this (I think Andreas is off to > Mailand this weekend :-) ) > > First of all I suggest taking a look at [1] there might be a couple of > answers for questions not yet found :) > Second in particular you might take a look at [2] where it tells you how to > build your own assembly of a karaf based server. > > regards, Achim > > [1] - http://karaf.apache.org/**manual/latest-2.2.x/** > developers-guide/index.html<http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest-2.2.x/developers-guide/index.html> > [2] - http://karaf.apache.org/**manual/latest-2.2.x/** > developers-guide/custom-**distribution.html<http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest-2.2.x/developers-guide/custom-distribution.html> > > Am 26.08.2011 21:55, schrieb Matt Madhavan: > > Hi Andreas, >> Just getting to this now after a little while! >> >> I have few more questions! >> >> Can you elaborate on the following sentence? >> *You can also embed Karaf into your >> build cycle creating your very own distribution based on Karaf if this is >> what you like >> * >> Planning on spending the weekend on this. Any help will be appreciated! >> >> Thanks >> Matt >> >> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Andreas Pieber<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Hey Matt, >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 04:14, Matt >>> Madhavan<mattmadhavan@gmail.**com<[email protected]> >>> > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Than you very much for the reply! >>>> >>> >>> Still, I don't like making advertisment on other lists. I always feel >>> like >>> a >>> marketing guy then :-) So maybe we can continue this discussion on one of >>> the Karaf lists? >>> >>> >>> I appreciate it. Can you point me to some >>>> documentation regarding installing Karaf and Karaf and Eclipse >>>> >>> Integration >>> >>>> etc. No hand holding but some pointers/docs etc and I'll be good. >>>> >>>> OK, this shouldn't be an RTM but there is really a great deal already >>> documented there [1] and there [2]. In very short: installing karaf is as >>> simple as downloading and starting it :-) You can also embed Karaf into >>> your >>> build cycle creating your very own distribution based on Karaf if this is >>> what you like. For the eclipse integration part: There is a plugin out >>> there >>> [3] which should help here. Still I'm personally NOT a big fan of direct >>> integration with your IDE. I know I'm almost alone with this opinion, but >>> everytime there is a bigger upgrade on one side some things stop working. >>> And I'm already so pissed off by this that I'm glad that you can work >>> with >>> Karaf really fine using various dev:commands and maven. Eclipse is only >>> what >>> it should be: an IDE you use to test and write code. Build and run is >>> done >>> by maven. This sounds quite slow right now, but in combination with >>> building >>> your own distribution and dev:watch this allows REALLY fast development! >>> >>> Feel free to ping us on the Karaf User list if you have any additional >>> questions! >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Andreas >>> >>> [1] >>> http://karaf.apache.org/**manual/2.2.2/users-guide/**index.html<http://karaf.apache.org/manual/2.2.2/users-guide/index.html> >>> [2] >>> http://karaf.apache.org/**manual/2.2.2/developers-guide/**index.html<http://karaf.apache.org/manual/2.2.2/developers-guide/index.html> >>> [3] >>> >>> http://fusesource.com/wiki/**display/EIK/Home;jsessionid=** >>> 835ECA1235B36A8CE46D14DB2FE4EC**57<http://fusesource.com/wiki/display/EIK/Home;jsessionid=835ECA1235B36A8CE46D14DB2FE4EC57> >>> >>> >>> I'm now intrigued. >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot and I look forward to hearing from you! >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Matt >>>> On Aug 2, 2011 8:41 PM, "Andreas Pieber"<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey Matt, >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 00:58, Matt >>>>> Madhavan<mattmadhavan@gmail.**com<[email protected]> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>>> I have seen couple of email threads on this topic. But did not really >>>>>> >>>>> get >>>> a >>>> >>>>> definitive answer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently we do not use Karaf. We use Felix and other related bundles >>>>>> >>>>> via >>>> >>>>> pax runner. I have seen recommendations about using Karaf. Why cannot >>>>>> >>>>> I >>> >>>> just >>>>>> start the Felix container in debug via mvn pax:provision and do a >>>>>> >>>>> remote >>> >>>> debug? What do I get out of Karaf that I donot get from Felix and its >>>>>> webconsole (started using pax web and jetty etc). >>>>>> >>>>>> A very good feature information is presented by >>>>> >>>> http://karaf.apache.org/ >>> >>>> . >>>> >>>>> While it depends on your needs I personally start any OSGi based >>>>> >>>> toplevel >>> >>>> (!) project without Karaf. The configuration support, features(.xml) >>>>> support, the "fancy" command line, easy packaging, hotdeployment, >>>>> >>>> remote >>> >>>> access... All of them are feature you simply do not want to miss in >>>>> >>>> your >>> >>>> final server. It's not that you cant configure such a system from >>>>> >>>> ground >>> >>>> up >>>> >>>>> yourself. The question is rather: why would you want to do it? Projects >>>>> >>>> like >>>> >>>>> geronimo, smx, talend, openengsb, (and many more) already proof that it >>>>> >>>> is >>>> >>>>> pretty easy to develop toplevel projects based on Karaf. My absolute >>>>> favorite in the entire development tool-chain here is the "dev:watch *" >>>>> command in Karaf which automatically reload snapshot bundles asap they >>>>> >>>> are >>>> >>>>> build by maven. Using this together with an on-file-changed mvn install >>>>> script you'll get really (!) fast reload cycles. IMHO Karaf is >>>>> >>>> definitely >>> >>>> worth a look for every new OSGi project! If you're looking for more >>>>> >>>> user >>> >>>> reports here you may like to write directly to the karaf user list. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Also when using PaxExam (2.x.x), if I'm using the third type >>>>>> >>>>> "lesson-junit" >>>> >>>>> my understanding is that: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. I cannot use Native Container >>>>>> 2. And so I can only do remote debugging. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please let me know if my understanding is OK! >>>>>> >>>>>> I can't give any qualified answer on that (still on pax-exam 1.x; >>>>> shame >>>>> >>>> on >>>> >>>>> me), but for non-native container the "only-remote-debugging" thing is >>>>> definitely true. Since the itests does not run in the same "container" >>>>> >>>> as >>> >>>> your unit-tests you'll have to work with the remote debugger. >>>>> >>>>> I hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> Andreas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance! >>>>>> >>>>>> Matt >>>>>> >>>>>> > > -- > -- > *Achim Nierbeck* > > > Apache Karaf<http://karaf.apache.org/**> Committer& PMC > OPS4J Pax > Web<http://wiki.ops4j.org/**display/paxweb/Pax+Web/<http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>> > Committer& Project Lead > blog<http://notizblog.**nierbeck.de/ <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>> > > > ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > users-unsubscribe@felix.**apache.org<[email protected]> > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >
