We think highly of the "ligh weight service" usage of osgi; 
This is the real reason why we need resolve classes of osgi from 
host-application;

So we are hoping: if we can build a "light weight service" system based on 
OSGI, then we can not only achieve benefit of  service-orient system, but also 
we can still using the valuable artifact provided by app-server(etc: 
web-container, ResourceAdaptor/JCA, TransactionManager, management..)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "xuhb" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: How to find a class of bundle from Host application?


> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Neil Bartlett" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: How to find a class of bundle from Host application?
> 
> 
>> Could you please explain a little more why you want to do this.
>> 
>> What you're asking for may be possible, but these kinds of problems can 
>> nearly always be solved better using OSGi Services. For example, do you 
>> *really* need a class, or do you just need an instance of an object of a 
>> particular type?
> 
> Previously, our application are based on a app-server,  business module is 
> implements as Spring/EJB;  
> But we have encounter such difficult:
> 
> 1) When a new version application is update,  the user always don't ask for 
> the the new version to replace the old version, but ask for the new and old 
> version system both run for a while simultaneously; Because the different 
> organize of the customer cannot migrate the new version simultaneously;
> 
> 2) In our application there are always some business logical which should be 
> extract as shared service, but these services also must be versioned;
> 
> To resolve our practical problem , we need a plugin system, which can 
> contribute services of different version; and the application could choose 
> which one it can use; That's why we need first resolve a  classes from osgi  
> before using the osgi service;  
> 
> If we doesn't just limited in our practical problem, then we want to treat 
> the osgi to act as a "light weight service" system. 
> Here "ligh weight service" composed of two part : 1) contract: the java 
> interface; 2) implementation: the osgi service object;
> That's to say, we wants:
> 
> 1)  A new "ligh weight service" could be installed at run time and is 
> discovered by  client (exist in host-application);
>    etc: A jsp could resolve to the java interface of a "light weight 
> service", and invoke the osgi service;
> 2) The  implementation of "light weight service" can be un-aware to client 
> (exit in host-application). and could be updated dynamically;
> 
> This is osgi's natual;
> 
> 3) The update of "light weight service"' could be awared by the client, and 
> re-resolve to it.
> This is only used for failure test, becuase updating of contract( the java 
> interface) can cause un-reasonable problem; 
> Actually, we just need to know: "contract is update, the client may corrupt" 
> ,and give a report. that's enough;
> 
>> Rgds
>> Neil
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, 17 October 2011 at 07:44, xuhb wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry, I expressed my requirement un-correctly;
>>> 
>>> Actually, the host application just know the name of class and want to 
>>> choose such class from embedded osgi environment ?
>>> Could I? 
>>> Must I create a bundle (which import such class) dynamically and retrive 
>>> class from the dynamic created bundle? Is there other facilitate method?
>>> 
>>> Thanks any suggestion
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "xuhb" <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected])>
>>> To: <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected])>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 2:32 PM
>>> Subject: How to find a class of bundle from Host application?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > Hi:
>>> >  I am using osgi environment (felix) embedded in a Host Application; 
>>> >  Now the host application want to use a class from a specified osgi 
>>> > bundle, 
>>> >  Could standard osgi support such usage? 
>>> >  or felix support such extension usage?
>>> > Thanks any suggestion
>> 
>>

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