Hello,

Brief update:  It works fine with Felix but not with Equinox (using Felix
SCR 1.6.2, works perfectly with Felix (checked against 4.0.3 and 4.2.1) not
with Equinox 3.8.0.v20120529-1548).

Definitely something odd going but I didn't have time to get to the bottom
of it.  I will hopefully get some time later, at least to try with Equinox
3.9.0.v20130305-2200.

cheers,
Caspar


On 5 April 2013 17:43, Caspar MacRae <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hi Neil,
>
> I had switched out the DS components for some framework API based code (a
> servicetracker that just logs the add/modify/remove and invokes inside the
> add method) and these are working ok.  I think my hacky classloader is
> honouring the compatibility of package+version (it does explicitly check
> for a match of both, and I've yet to see a classcast).
>
> I assumed (and you've stated explicitly) that SCR isn't doing any freaky
> magic, it's just using the framework API - so I'm still quite confused as
> to why I'm seeing different behaviour.
>
> Time to crank up the debugger and step over the SCR code, hopefully I'll
> see what I'm missing/doing wrong there.
>
> While I did want all the services loaded eagerly, it may be a lot clearer
> to use FindHook and use the caller's bundle for classloading (that should
> at least absolutely remove the potential for package collisions?).  Will
> give this a try if I don't gleam anything from debugging.
>
> Thanks Neil, this isn't the first time you've helped me out - now I've
> some confidence and fresh avenues to try =)
>
>
> Best regards,
> Caspar
>
>
>
>
> On 5 April 2013 16:21, Neil Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> My guess is that this is due to service compatibility filtering... it's
>> not
>> an SCR problem at all.
>>
>> OSGi normally checks whether the consumer and provider of a service are
>> compatible: i.e., if they both import the service interface from the same
>> export. This is very important because it prevents class cast exceptions
>> or
>> worse errors when you go and get a service instance. However if the
>> provider is a proxy, it's perfectly possible to create an instance of an
>> interface without actually importing the interface, so the service
>> registry
>> thinks that it is incompatible with your consumer.
>>
>> This filtering happens directly in the service registry, not at the SCR
>> level. So you can confirm it by using the low-level API and seeing whether
>> you get the same result. Calling BundleContext.getServiceReferences() will
>> be enough. You can also call BundleContext.getAllServiceReferences()...
>> this turns off the compatibility filtering. If the latter call gives you
>> the service but the former does not, then we have confirmed that the cause
>> is compatibility filtering.
>>
>> If so, then the solution is to make sure your provider bundle (the one
>> that
>> generates the proxies and registers them) has *no imports at all*. When
>> OSGi sees this, it works out that you're doing something special and it
>> turns off the filtering. This may require you to separate the
>> proxy-registering code out into a small bundle that you have created
>> specifically for the purpose. This is what most Remote Services
>> implementations do, for example.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Caspar MacRae <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I have a bit of strange problem and I'm hoping somebody reading has
>> > experienced something similar and can tell me where I'm going wrong.
>> >
>> > I'm registering a number of services that are proxies, these show up in
>> the
>> > console and I can use the framework API to look up valid references and
>> > invoke methods.
>> >
>> > The problem is these aren't being picked up by SCR managed components -
>> > they just show as unsatisfied.  I replaced the proxies with a concrete
>> > implementation (non-DS, framework registered) and the dependencies were
>> met
>> > and the DS components activated - so everything appears to work
>> > independently, but not in concert it seems.
>> >
>> > I am creating and registering these services via a SCR managed component
>> > but not in any lifecycle methods.  Just using standard
>> > java.lang.reflect.Proxy#newProxyInstance() with hacky custom classloader
>> > that simply delegates to the bundles exporting the various
>> > interfaces/classes used in the proxied interfaces.
>> >
>> > Also tried to create a simple test case with pax-exam but I'm unable to
>> > reproduce it there.
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm at loss looking at my own code, so will start digging into the Felix
>> > SCR code to understand how it uses the framework API to find 'n' bind,
>> > hopefully that will shed some light on my problem.
>> >
>> >
>> > Any suggestions gratefully received, thanks for listening,
>> >
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > Caspar
>> >
>>
>
>

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