>From what labriola spoke about, we should be clear that randori does not
work w/ flex (and I'm not sure it ever will directly). Randori is about
writing in one language, and having compatability output in another (at
least that's how I understood it).  You can write in AS3, use a JS library
w/ code completion intellisense, and have a view generated, allowing your
designer to work w/ html/css, and letting the developer work with the
logic. If you have a pure language framework (i.e. AS3 or c#), then you
could use randori to mixin a JS library and generate a js output.  So in a
sense, if you have an mvvm, or some other pattern, then that should work.

Randori allows you to inject your view into the mediator, meaning you don't
need binding, b/c your mediator knows what to do with what is available
from the view.  Labriola discussed this as some of the influence it took
from Robotlegs.  Maybe this part I'm shortcutting on the discussion, but
there's a lot of power in this framework (and btw, it's apache license as
well, and has vs2010/2012 plugins already available, waiting on the
intellij support).

The databinding I think we are used to seeing from flex is not the same
concept in a js world, and thus this injection model let's us break that
(bad behavior, imo).  Build what you want in your dsl (for now its js or
c#, but more may come), and have a view from any way you want.  In a sense,
it's getting right what adobe couldn't (i.e. get their head out of their
tuchus).  Instead if insisting that designers should write code as well
design, this allows developers to do their thing, and collaborate w/
designers, w/o mudding up the project.

There's much more to this discussion, but this is just me typing up a quick
recap.

Regards,

JP
On Mar 19, 2013 10:25 AM, "Hans Van den Keybus" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I think especially the randori framework really has a LOT of potential.
> It mixes the best of flex with the best of html. Looks very exciting!!
>
> Do you think it would be possible to work Mvvm of mvp as well, instead of
> just mvc, in the long run? (I kind of tend to dislike mediators.. I think
> they repeat a lot of job).
> This would mean your html page would have a reference to a viewmodel
> (written in as3) and bind to properties of that model.
>
> In a lot of html/js frameworks html is getting databinding, so i think in
> the long run this might be possible, right?
>
> Keep up the good work!
> Hans
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 19 Mar 2013, at 15:39, JP Bader <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > No, the recording is here:
> >
> > http://experts.adobeconnect.com/p6vtdd35kyc/
> >
> > Login should not be necessary
> > On Mar 19, 2013 9:37 AM, "Tom Chiverton" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On 19/03/2013 14:07, JP Bader wrote:
> >>
> >>> The *new* announcement was the ability to write AS projects directly to
> >>> JS,
> >>> with strong typing, ability to use meta tags, and code completion of
> >>> various JS libraries, such as Kendo/jQuery/et al (so long as they have
> >>> good
> >>> comments).  It doesn't write frameworks to js, just pure as -> js
> >> That could be very awesome...
> >>
> >> The video should now be public.
> >> It prompts me for a name, then loads and says "The host has ended this
> >> meeting. Thank you for attending.".
> >> https://experts.adobeconnect.**com/randori_does_apache/<
> https://experts.adobeconnect.com/randori_does_apache/>is right ?
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
>

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