Hi Christian,

As the remapping is done in VarImp and not in View, I don't see how to solve my problem by defining another View. For example, if I want to make element constraint over booleans variables subscribe to PC_BOOL_SAME, I update the constructor of "Int<V0,V1,Idx,Val>" to make views x0 and x1 subscribe to PC_INT_DOM and PC_BOOL_SAME. If I use the new view, boolean variable will subscribe to PC_INT_DOM instead to PC_BOOL_VAL and integer variables will subscribe to PC_BOOL_SAME that is not meaningful for them.

Maybe if subscribe functions could be called like that : x0.subscribe(home, *this, PC_INT_DOM | PC_BOOL_VAL); with PC_X_X propagation conditions seen as flag, the subscribe function of a view may be able to deal only with conditions meaningful for the view and ignore others. For example, in x0.subscribe(home, *this, PC_INT_DOM | PC_BOOL_VAL | PC_BOOL_SAME), PC_INT_DOM is only meaningful for IntView and PC_BOOL_VAL and PC_BOOL_SAME are only meaningful for BoolView. Other problems will occur like the maximum number of PC_X_X conditions managed in Gecode. Sorry my guess is probably irrelevant, but I don't see how to do without changing even a
little the propagators.

Furthermore, all current "rel()" functions which post propagators use usual BoolView.So I have to change all functions which post propagators to make them post propagators with the new view. I think that It is more painful than just updating the constructor of some propagators.

Sorry to bother you with my questions. I think Gecode is a great solver and I like to add inside it
my ideas in order to validate them..

Cheers,
Vincent

Le 2 déc. 09 à 19:06, Christian Schulte a écrit :

No, that wouldn't really work as I think it is best to not change the code
of the propagators: that's the entire idea behind views!

I would be happier if your first sentence would read as follows: ... the remapping is only meaningful for propagators which use boolean variables as
(instead of and) integer variables.

So, what's so bad about defining two views and instantiate the propagators accordingly? I even thought that this should have been done in Gecode right
from the start.

Christian

-----Original Message-----
From: Vincent Barichard [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:45 PM
To: Christian Schulte
Cc: 'Guido Tack'; 'gecode list'
Subject: Re: [gecode-users] Remapping of BoolVar propagation conditions

Hi,

Ok, if I understood all answers, the remapping is only meaningful for
propagators which use boolean variables and integer variables. As they
can't distinguish boolean variables from integer ones, the propagation
conditions are remapped in the first case.

If the propagators might distinguish boolean variables from integer
variables, and use the correct propagation condition in each case, the
remapped will be useless.

If I modify the ViewVarImpTraits and the constructors of propagators
in the following way, will all existing propagators of Gecode work as
usual ? In that case I will be able to add a new PC_BOOL_SAME
condition without breaking anything.

In gecode/int/view.hpp, I change all ViewVarImpTraits classes:

Those which are over booleans,

  template<>
  class ViewVarImpTraits<Int::IntView> {
  public:
    /// The variable type of an IntView
    typedef Int::IntVarImp VarImp;
    static const bool isBool = false;
  };

Those which deal with booleans,

  template<>
  class ViewVarImpTraits<Int::BoolView> {
  public:
    /// The variable type of a BoolView
    typedef Int::BoolVarImp VarImp;
    static const bool isBool = true;
  };


and in propagator constructors (for example in gecode/int/element/
int.hpp) replace calls to :

x0.subscribe(home,*this,PC_INT_DOM);

by

x0.subscribe(home,*this,(Gecode::ViewVarImpTraits<V0>::isBool)?
PC_BOOL_VAL:PC_INT_DOM);

After, in the file gecode/int/var-imp/bool.hpp :

  forceinline void
  BoolVarImp::subscribe(Space& home, Propagator& p, PropCond,
                        bool process) {
    // Subscription can be used with integer propagation conditions,
    // which must be remapped to the single Boolean propagation
condition.
    BoolVarImpBase::subscribe(home,p,PC_BOOL_VAL,assigned(),process);
  }

can be replaced by

  forceinline void
  BoolVarImp::subscribe(Space& home, Propagator& p, PropCond pc,
                        bool process) {
    BoolVarImpBase::subscribe(home,p,pc,assigned(),process);
  }

(the same for the cancel member function)

and everything should work as usual.
Am I right ?

Cheers,
Vincent


Le 1 déc. 09 à 19:26, Christian Schulte a écrit :

Actually, what Guido and me tried to say is the following:
conceptually,
Gecode should have two Boolean views, say BoolView and
BoolAsAnIntView. The
former does not need rewriting and most propagators using Boolean
views
should use this one. The latter must use rewriting to map integer
propagation conditions to the single supported Boolean propagation
condition.

Then there are integer propagators which we also want to use on
Boolean
views (these are few: the extensional ones, including element and
sequence).
These propagators should use BoolAsAnIntView including rewriting.
All other
- true Boolean propagators should use the real BoolView.

So what you might want to do is to have these two different views,
one with
and one without rewriting! Everything will work just fine.

Christian

-----Original Message-----
From: Vincent Barichard [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:22 PM
To: Guido Tack
Cc: Christian Schulte; 'gecode list'
Subject: Re: [gecode-users] Remapping of BoolVar propagation
conditions

Hi Guido,

That was my first thought. But I didn't understand why this remapping
was there. Christian said in a previous mail that removing the mapping
will break all propagators that are used for integer as well as for
boolean variables! If I pass the pc unchanged, will it break something
in Gecode ? I don't want to break something, I would like to add
safely my piece of code.

If removing it doesn't break anything, will this mapping be still
there in the future versions ?

Thank you again, I really appreciate the time you spent to answer my
questions :)

Cheers,
Vincent

Le 1 déc. 09 à 16:30, Guido Tack a écrit :

Hi Vincent,

the rewriting is currently done in int/var-imp/bool.hpp.  Just
remove the rewriting there and pass the pc unchanged, add rewriting
to all the normal Gecode BoolView classes, and then add your own
BoolView class that doesn't rewrite.

Cheers,
        Guido

Vincent Barichard wrote:

Dear Christian,

Thank you very much for your mail. I'm sorry, I don't understand
your answer. Why having other BoolView classes will
help me ? I added member functions in the BoolViews classes. I
didn't change the existing ones,
I only added member functions which notify the ME_BOOL_SAME event.

In my own propagator (let's call it M) I call the recently added
functions in the BoolViews. So the ME_BOOL_SAME
event is sent.

I also modified one propagator of Gecode (let's call it P') and
make it subscribe to the PC_BOOL_SAME propagation condition (I only
added "x1.subscribe(home, *this, PC_BOOL_SAME)" in constructor).
In the "propagate" function of P' I added instructions which are
only relevant if a ME_BOOL_SAME event has been sent before.

So when M is woke up (because it subscribe to PC_BOOL_VAL
propagation condition) it may call the new member functions in the
BoolViews classes which sent the ME_BOOL_SAME event. I would like
that propagators which subscribe to the PC_BOOL_SAME propagation
condition and only these ones, be scheduled to wake up (for example
P' will be scheduled if it shares a variable with M). As no
assignment has been made by the M propagator, I don't want that
other propagators wake up except if a ME_BOOL_VAL event has been
sent from elsewhere.

Unfortunately, as all propagation condition subscribings for
Boleans variables are remapped to PC_BOOL_VAL, P' will not awake if
a ME_BOOL_SAME event is sent.

May have I another choice but to use the ME_BOOL_VAL event instead
of ME_BOOL_SAME in my new member functions of the BoolView
classes ? As a result, all propagators will be awaken even if they
can't propagate removal, indeed no assignment has been made.

Don't hesitate to ask me if I'm not clear enough.

Cheers,
Vincent

Le 30 nov. 09 à 16:35, Christian Schulte a écrit :

Actually what you have to do is the following: you define two
classes for
Boolean views, one that rewrites its propagation conditions and
the other
one that does not. Then your propagators can use the views without
rewriting
while the other propagators can use the variables with rewriting.

Christian

--
Christian Schulte, www.ict.kth.se/~cschulte/


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf
Of Vincent Barichard
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:33 AM
To: Christian Schulte
Cc: 'Guido Tack'; 'gecode list'
Subject: Re: [gecode-users] Remapping of BoolVar propagation
conditions

Hi,

Thank you both for your answers. As I don't want to break all
propagators
that are used for integer as well as boolean variables, I see no
choice but
to use PC_BOOL_VAL.

Maybe one of you may see another way ? I make new functions on
Boolean
variables (and associated views) which don't set domain to 1 or 0
(I copied
"ModEvent  BoolVarImp::one_none(Space& home)" and removed the
unwanted
instructions). These functions notify new events (called
ME_BOOL_SAME in
bool.vis file (see attached file)). I mapped this new event to the
PC_BOOL_SAME propagation condition.

Now I change an existing propagator (like the "Or" propagator),
and I want
it to be awaken when ME_BOOL_SAME is emitted. As the variable is
not yet
assigned, I didn't want to emit the ME_BOOL_VAL event because I
didn't want
to wake up propagators which only subscribed to the PC_BOOL_VAL
condition.

So during propagation, I call my new functions on Boolean
variables, the
ME_BOOL_SAME event is sent and propagators which subscribe to the
PC_BOOL_SAME condition are wake up. Other propagators are not
awaken (except
if a ME_BOOL_VAL event has also been sent). Is it possible ?
Should I use ME_BOOL_VAL ? If I use ME_BOOL_VAL other propagators
will be
awaken for nothing.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers,
Vincent

Vincent Barichard         Université d'Angers (LERIA)
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Vincent Barichard         Université d'Angers (LERIA)
Tel: 02 41 73 52 06      Département Informatique
Fax: 02 41 73 50 73     H203


Vincent Barichard         Université d'Angers (LERIA)
Tel: 02 41 73 52 06      Département Informatique
Fax: 02 41 73 50 73     H203


Vincent Barichard         Université d'Angers (LERIA)
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