** Reply to message from Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:28:03 +0000 (GMT)
Tom, I didn't mean I would try them all, just consider what would be the best for me. Thanks. Cliff > Hi :) > > Lol, i didn't mean you have to try them all. That's why i gave summary info > and > background so that you can choose to try 1 sometime. SliTaz would be the > fastest to try but Ubuntu is more useful for general use. Trinity is only > useful as a rescue, recovery or fix-it Cd and is rarely needed. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > ________________________________ > From: Cliff Scott <ke6...@qsl.net> > To: users@libreoffice.org > Sent: Wed, 16 February, 2011 13:27:58 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll > > ** Reply to message from Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> on Wed, 16 Feb > 2011 09:56:28 +0000 (GMT) > > Hi Tom, > > Thanks for all the useful suggestions. I'll look into them. > > Cliff > > > Hi :) > > > > Windows just seems to do things like this occasionally. It might have been > > triggered by OOo (or LO) but usually this sort of thing 'just happens' or > > is > > done by antivirus software. People don't seem to realise how flaky Windows > > is > > > until they use linux or have had to maintain a lot of machines. Often they > > think Windows is the most robust and easiest!! > > > > > > One of the advantages of having a dual-boot system (usually with a linux > > distro > > > > such as Ubuntu) is that you can continue using the machine and even use the > > distro to fix Windows using the 'cheat method' you used. > > > > Instead of going to all the trouble of install an operating system > > alongside > > Windows (takes a couple of hours) it might be better to start with a small > > collection of distros on Cds or Usb-sticks that allow a "LiveCd session" > > with > > tools that can help fix typical Windows problems. "LiveCd" simply means a > > bootable Cd that gets you into a working desktop session. > > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD > > Even if it is really LiveUsb we often still say LiveCd as a more generic > > term > > because habits are tough to break. My favourite 3 are > > > > > > 1. Ubuntu = to get a fully functional desktop similar to Xp/Win7 complete > > with > > > office apps and internet already. This is the one i have as a > > LiveUsb-stick > >and > > > > i even have it fully installed on a usb-stick for work. The problem with > >"Live" > > > > sessions is that when you reboot no trace of the session is left on the > > machine > > > > unless you deliberately saved stuff to the hard-drive. Anything saved to > > the > > desktop or "Documents" and bookmarks and history is all forgotten. LiveCds > > are > > > > great for online banking. Download links and other useful stuff can be > > found > > from DistroWatch > > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu > > > > 2. SliTaz = just as a LiveCd. It doesn't have so much functionality "out > > of > >the > > > > box" but it is only 30Mb so it downloads fast and often makes a nice Cd > > even if > > > > the cd/dvd-drive appears to have problems. It does have GPartEd, a > >text-editor, > > > > a linux command-line, a very efficient cd/dvd burning tool called something > >like > > > > "Gnome Baker", Gnome Office (if you are desperate!) and can install grub2 > > if > > Windows boot-loader is broken (or even if it isn't broken yet). The LiveCd > > session runs entirely from Ram so you can take the Cd out once you see the > > desktop > > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=slitaz > > > > 3. Trinity Rescue Kit = the only one of my 3 favourites that is really > > exclusively for fixing Windows problems > > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trinity > > This one doesn't give a desktop anything like Windows but it does have a > > nice > > menu system and is stuffed full of useful apps for fixing things, > >data-recovery, > > > > password reset, partition editor and stacks more. It does have tools that > > are > > > good for fixing linux systems but Windows breaks more often so that is > > where > > it's real value is. > > > > There are a LOT of other distros and many have specific advantages (but > > also > > disadvantages). Many people prefer Mint, openSUSE, Pardus, Fedora or > > Mandriva > > > instead of Ubuntu but of these "entry level" distros Ubuntu is the most > > famous > > > and appears in the mainstream press. Mint does have more multimedia > > already > > set-up. Mandriva looks pretty. Fedora explores new features and programs > > before other distros so it doesn't always behave but can be interesting. > > > > > > There are a lot of distros aimed at older hardware or smaller systems but > >SliTaz > > > > seems to cover the widest range of newer hardware while it's focus is on > > older > > > systems. Knoppix covers a good range but mostly newer hardware and it's a > > LOT > > > larger. Wolvix Hunter 1.1.0 has a nice tutorial in its installer so it can > > be > >a > > > > good one to try first to learn how to dual-boot and has very addictive > > retro > > space-invaders game. Again it is a lot larger. Generally tiny distros > > like > > Puppy and TinyCore have a very different way of working but skills or > > programs > > > learned with sliTaz or AntiX are useful elsewhere or if you already know > > Ubuntu's (or another's) command-line then sliTaz is about the same. Also > > it's > > > desktop is quite pretty. > > > > Instead of Trinity many people prefer distros such as SystemRescue, Parted > > Magic, Gparted (an entire distro built around the program) or Knoppix but i > >tend > > > > to find all their tools and more are on the Trinity Cd. So, i find Trinity > > is > > > better when i need to go out to fix someone's machine. It's not as famous > > and > > > doesn't even appear in the top 100 at DistroWatch's front page > > http://distrowatch.com/ > > but despite that it has reasonable forums. > > > > So if i go out then 2 Cds and 1 usb-stick covers most of my options for > > using > >or > > > > fixing Windows machines but if i can only take 1 then i would take my > > Ubuntu > > usb-stick (not the LiveUsb one unless i wanted to install Ubuntu). Having > >these > > > > things ready in advance is nice but they can always be made from another > > machine, which is where sliTaz is really useful. > > > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Cliff Scott <ke6...@qsl.net> > > To: users@libreoffice.org > > Sent: Wed, 16 February, 2011 3:23:28 > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll > > > > I just ran into a scary situation. > > > > I already had LO 3.3 installed on a Win2K system and working great. That > > system also had OOo 3.2.1 installed and working. I upgraded the OOo to 3.3 > > to > > compare OOo & LO and after that neither one would start. It was complaining > > about the file MSVCR90.DLL missing. I searched the entire system drive and > > it > > was indeed not there. Apparently it had been there previously since LO > > worked. All that I can assume is that the OOo3.3 install deleted it. Seems > > REALLY strange to delete a file that you need. During both installs there > > was > > an error message about not finding some entry point into the kernel to set > > the Heap Size, but neither time did it stop the install. Could these > > problems > > be related? > > > > BTW, I checked on my wife's computer which only has OOo and it had the dll > > so > > I was able to copy it to my computer and get LO and OOo running again. > > Without that I would have been is dire straits. > > > > Has anyone else seen this? > > > > -- > > Cliff > > > > -- > Cliff > -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
