Hi :)
1. Yes but another way around is more to the point.  MSO 2003 & 2007 handle LO 
files better than LO handles MSO files.  MSO tries to include some crazy 
non-standards stuff whereas LO is more "standards-compliant".  


2. - 4. Errr, dunno.  TTf is a generic format rather than specific to 1 program.

Regards from
Tom :)





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From: Laivy Gelerinter <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 26 May, 2011 21:32:05
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] compatibility with MS Word 2007 files, hebrew

So let me understand

1. LO can deal with the MSO 2003 files better than the 2007 files?

2. If I install Ubuntu together with my Widows rather than instead can Ubuntu 
and LO access the font files that I have in the Windows system?

3. If not, will Ubuntu with LO recognize TT fonts or other fonts files that I 
have in Windows if I copy them to a Ubuntu folder?

4. If this would also not work, where could I get the "better" font files?

Thank you to all who have responded so far and I am looking forward to your 
responses to my new questions.

Laivy


----- Original Message ----- From: "webmaster for Kracked Press Productions" 
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] compatibility with MS Word 2007 files, hebrew


> On 05/26/2011 09:33 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> 
>> LibreOffice works on Windows too and can be installed without making it the
>> default Office Suite.  Your colleagues could continue to use MS Office for 
>most
>> things and then just use LibreOffice for the newsletter.
>> 
>> 
>> So far it seems that files created in LibreOffice (or OpenOffice) look fairly
>> close to the original when opened in MS Office although for MS Office prior 
to
>> 2007 the files need to be saved as "Word 98/2000/Xp" format (.doc rather than
>> .docX or .odt).  Word 2007 and 2010 can open .odt but handles .doc better.  
>>This
>> can be set as the default format in LibreOffice or OpenOffice
>> Tools - Options - "Load/Save" - General
>> and then use the 2 drop-down lists at the bottom to set-up the new defaults
>> (roll back up the list 2 places to see the "98/200/Xp" formats). Sometimes 
>it's
>> just easier to use
>> File - "Save As .."
>> but changing the defaults mean you don't have to worry until after you 
upgrade
>> again.
>> 
> MSO 2003 plus the add on to read/write .docx files [directly from MSO] never 
>worked for me to read the .docx files that were on MSO's template pages.  I 
>have 
>not tried LibreOffice 3.3.2 with some of the MSO XML files from their online 
>template site.  I have been told on these lists that the reading ability for 
>LO 
>is much better now that what OOo was, the last time I downloaded MSO sample 
>files.  So I will have to try them.  To be honest if MSO's own add on for 
>their 
>own products, to be able to use those nasty XML files, do not work then it 
>will 
>be hard pressed for LO developers to make it work.  But, that is the MS way.  
>You have to buy their newest product to get to use the files saved with those 
>newest products.
>> Were the Hebrew fonts messed up?  If that happens it might be possible to
>> install 'better' Hebrew fonts.  Usually it is something odd about the way MSO
>> handles text-boxes and pictures, any boxes really.  But this can usually be
>> fixed just by dragging the boxes back to the right place
>> 
> I have many Hebrew TTF fonts ranging from 30KB to over 100KB in size. Could 
>there be a problem with the font file[s] that are being used?  That is just a 
>wild guess, but not all "Hebrew" fonts are equal in quality, as far as I can 
>see, but I do not read Hebrew.
> 
>> Hopefully compatibility will improve but MS like to try to make things 
>>difficult
>> so that people are forced into buying their latest Office all the time. 
Google
>> docs also uses the OpenDocument Formats and compatibility is improving there
>> too.  The whole Cloud thing is still a bit new but it's hopefully improving
>> despite occasional set-backs.
>> 
>> 
>> Encouraging your colleagues to install LibreOffice and make sure it is NOT 
set
>> as the default Office Suite will help you all move to better compatibility 
>with
>> more systems.  They might even find they prefer LibreOffice more and more 
even
>> though they could always use MSO instead.  The icons are nicer and menus more
>> familiar than the ribbon-bar (especially as it looks in MSO 2007).
>> 
> If you cannot get you colleagues to use LibreOffice, please let them know 
> that 
>it would be better for them to use .doc and other non-XML formats so it is 
>much 
>easier to share the files with other colleagues.  As I said before, not every 
>MSO package that "claims" to read/write .docx files will read/write the same 
>and 
>be read the same between different MSO packages. Also, some people, and 
>businesses, just do not have the money to update their systems every time MSO 
>comes out with a new version.  I know quite a few that still use MSO 2000 or 
>2003.  So, if people will just stop using that nasty XML version of MSO file 
>formats, we all will have an easier time sharing files between MSO users and 
>MSO 
>and LibreOffice users.
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Laivy Gelerinter<[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Thu, 26 May, 2011 12:12:40
>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] compatibility with MS Word 2007 files, hebrew
>> 
>> I recently downloaded the newest version of Ubuntu in order to try it out as
>> I am not so impressed with Windows. The current download includes
>> LibreOffice. The main thing which would stop me from moving over to Ubuntu
>> is compatibility with MS Office 2007 files. I have been putting out a weekly
>> newsletter in Hebrew for the past 9 years and need to be able to access my
>> MS files and to be able to read them and work with them. I also have some
>> people working with me and they use MS Word and I must be able to
>> successfully transfer files between them and myself. The newsletter is in
>> Hebrew. When I tried opening the MS files using LibreOffice I found that the
>> formatting was very messed up as well as LibreOffice not having the fonts I
>> use and therefore everything came out wrong. How can I get LibreOffice to
>> open these files while maintaining the proper formatting and fonts? I hope
>> there is a way as everything I have heard about Ubuntu and Libreoffice point
>> to them being much more stable and powerful than MS but, as I wrote, I need
>> the compatibility with MS Office 2007 files.
>> 
>> Thank you in advance
>> 
>> Laivy
>> 
> 
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