On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 06:42 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
> Question: Which version of LibreOffice are you using? 3.3.3, 3.3.4, > 3.4.1, 3.4.2? Many issues/bugs have been fixed in the 3.4.x line that > has not yet been fixed in the 3.3.x line. 3.4.x reads MS formats > better, is one of the fixes in that line. > > I kissed MSO completely on Feb. 2010 when I choose Ubuntu as my OS on my > new desktop. Then when LibreOffice came out I kissed OpenOffice.org > goodbye. > > I had been using MSO since Office 95 or 97, with the last one Office 2003. > > As for releasing software with "bugs", this is normal, even with MS > products. Many bugs are found in real world testing that happens on > some systems, but not others. When these bugs are reported, they are > placed on some type of "bug needing to be fixed list". Then it is up to > the individuals who do the programming/developing [all volunteers] to > choose which bug they have the skills to fix. I was a mainframe > programmer. I was really good. I am not skilled in the programming > needed for developing/fixing code for LibreOffice. > > We all hope that the next release has the bug fixed that causes problems > for some groups of users. Each release does its best to have as many > issues fixed as it can with the fixed release schedule. With a fixed > release schedule, it give the developers/helpers/bug-fixers a time line > to do the work. Some bugs takes a long time to find the code that is > the problem. I was once told that the code base for LibreOffice [and > OpenOffice.org] is 100's of thousands of lines of code. Some are no > longer used, while some are in need of "cleaning up". The LibreOffice > developers took OpenOffice.org's open source code base and dedicated > themselves to cleaning up all the messy and bad coding that was in the > OOo code base. They did a lot of that and made improvements and more > functions/abilities in their 3.3.0 release and came out with it before > Oracle's people came out with OOo's 3.3.0 package. Plus, the tech-media > stated that LibreOffice was a better product from the volunteers for The > Documents Foundation/ LibreOffice than was put out by the paid employees > [and some volunteers] at Oracle. > > To be honest, I was told that many of the bugs that are annoying > LibreOffice users can be traced back to the original messed up core > coding and the fixes placed on top of that coding to make it work, > instead of fixing that core code that is not working correctly. That is > some of the hardest work for our volunteeers, to trace and fix the core > coding that should have been fixed long time ago when it was developed > during the time Sun Microsystems "owned" the OpenOffice brand. > > Our developers are all volunteers and they are doing the best that they > can. If Sun, and then Oracle, paid employees working 8 hours a day 5 > days a week was working on developing/fixing/improving the > OpenOffice.org product and did not do as good of a job putting out the > 3.3.0 version of OOo as was put out with the all volunteer package of > LibreOffice, we have to give our people a hand for all that they did to > make LO better than OOo. Our volunteers are doing the best job as > possible for volunteers and their limited amount of time after they come > home from their paid jobs. They deserve out thanks for their dedication > to making LibreOffice the best they can make it with the limits to their > time to do the work. > > Sorry for the band standing, but our volunteers are doing everything > they are able to do to make LibreOffice the best free MSO alternative > office package. > Well said, the vast majority of people working on any aspect of LO are volunteers doing the best they can with the time available. > On 08/26/2011 02:16 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > > Le 25/08/11 19:37, Twayne a écrit : > > > > Hi Twayne, > > > >> I would love to tell MS to kiss my shiny metal butt, but I can't as > >> long > >> as some of these serious bugs continue to be ignored. One man can push one > >> car; as you're doing now, but not three or four at the same time. All this > >> is part of watching out for the future of LO and being able to say its > >> users > >> are solidly behind it. Anythng that doesn't work shouldn't have been > >> released until it does work. > > I fear you might have misunderstood how this project functions. Most of > > the bugs get fixed as and when someone decides that their "itch to > > scratch" is really starting to annoy them. The developers working as > > employees of some of the software companies involved in the LibreOffice > > project do not have set agendas with regard to bug fixing as such that I > > know of - no doubt they have their own internal work pressures and > > priorities to deal with before sorting out bug X or bug Y. Most of the > > volunteer developers participate in the project because they like > > developing, i.e. for fun. There's no fun involved in being told which > > bug to fix and why that particular bug should trump all others, in that > > case, they might as well go and develop something else. The fact of the > > matter is that there are still too few developers to be able to maintain > > the massive beast of code which LibreOffice represents. Add to that the > > fact that an even smaller number really know anything about the code > > base and how it works as a whole (i.e. where poking one thing causes the > > butterfly to explode on your screen 50,000 miles away). > > > > If you can live with the way the project functions, then you can live > > with the bugs. If not, then from a pragmatic point of view you can > > either do it yourself, pay someone to do it for you, or else come back > > to the project in a few months/years time to see if things have moved on > > in the direction you want. > > > > Alex > > > > > > -- Jay Lozier [email protected] -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
