Hi :) +1 Regards from Tom :)
--- On Thu, 8/9/11, Don C. Myers <[email protected]> wrote: From: Don C. Myers <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page? To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, 8 September, 2011, 20:09 Hi to all, Some of you have convinced me to use top posting, since it is better. Some of you have convinced me to use bottom posting, since it is better. Some of you have convinced me to do snipping, since it is better. Obviously there isn't a black and white solution. *My Big Concern* here is how are we being perceived by those who come here for help by the amount of time that has been spent on this thread today. I was one of the first responders last night. Never did I dream when I went to bed last night my inbox will be filled with a discussion like this today. People come here for help. People come here to help others. If this was the first day I came to this list, and I saw all of this and my problem being somewhat trivialized by all of this discussion, I would be out of hear. Is it not time to put this to rest and move on with the business this list was created for? I'm not trying to hurt anybody's feelings, but quite honestly, I'm sure a newcomer hear today would not be at all impressed with a list that has done a tremendous amount of good for LibreOffice and provided great help to many people in the past. Don On 09/08/2011 02:58 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > I use a standard email client in a standard way set on it's defaults. There > are likely to be more people using such systems as LibreOffice becomes more > popular. Hold onto your hats! > > Why are people in here so determined to make things unpleasant and difficult > for normal office workers? Is LibreOffice not meant to be used in offices by > office workers? > Regards from > Tom :) > > > --- On Thu, 8/9/11, Nuno J. Silva<[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Nuno J. Silva<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing > List Guidelines Page? > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, 8 September, 2011, 19:33 > > -sigh- let's see if I can get this attribution thing > fixed... gnus-outlook-deuglify-article couldn't process this message > > On 2011-09-08, Tom Davies wrote: >> On Thu, 8/9/11, Ken Springer<[email protected]> wrote: >>> On 9/8/11 11:37 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: >>>> On 2011-09-08 11:14 AM Tom Davies wrote: >>>> >>>>> Interspersing or bottom-posting ensures that every message needs to be >>>>> scrolled through unless people delete all the stuff that is irrelevant >>>>> (in their opinion, which 'might not' be the same as the opinion of the >>>>> person reading). Top posting means that most emails can be read >>>>> without any scrolling at all. >>>> Not true. You have to scroll down to see what is being responded to then >>>> scroll back up to see the response. Since you do not include proper >>>> attribution marks for the posts you respond to, the immediate message >>>> you respond to appears to be written by you. > Well, I guess if someone has a pretty damn good short term memory, then > we really don't need any context at all. That's right, we need ... erm, > what was I talking about again? > >>> Larry has just presented two other problems with top-posting. >> No, he didn't. He just showed that he has not read any of the posts >> yet as his arguments are already countered in previous posts. > What was exactly your argument to support lack of proper > citation/attribution marks? > >> Besides it doesn't matter how strong the argument against top-posting >> might be. The fact is that it is widely used especially by office >> workers. Do we want to stop office workers from using LibreOffice? >> Alienating them would be a good way to get them to stay with whatever >> else they already use. > Maybe we should instead teach office workers to use e-mail correctly. > >> Betamax was a better format than VHS but it lost the battle for >> acceptance and now the argument is irrelevant anyway. Perhaps it is >> similar with bottom posting. It might be better but almost no-one in >> our target markets use it (note the "almost" there). Most people >> would rather use forums anyway as mailing lists are ancient and >> out-dated. > Unlike betamax and VHS, top-posted emails and bottom-posted emails are > both readable by the same kind of client, so that analogy won't work. > > With betamax and VHS, unless you buy a VCR that supports both, or two > VCRs, you get to stick with the choice you made and you can't use the > other format. > >> So, do we want to go the route of betamax, ie obscurity, or do we want >> to get LibreOffice out there and being used? >> >> > >> -- Ken >> >> Mac OS X 10.6.8 >> Firefox 6.0.2 >> Thunderbird 6.0.2 >> LibreOffice 3.3.3 >> >> >> -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] >> Problems? >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >> deleted > Can't you at least delete signatures? > -- *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* Don C. 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